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A Memorial Stone
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Randomly Floating Objects
Discovery and Exploration
The Ballast of the Ark
Carried by Lava Flow
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The Truth About Noah and The Flood
The 120 Year Countdown
Pre-Flood Scientists Flood Impossible
The 7 Day Countdown
The Present is not the Key to the Past
How the Impossible Happened
Countdown To Our Civilizations End
Did the Great, Worldwide Flood Really Happen?
The Fossil Record
After the Great Flood
How did the animals spread over the earth?
Buried Cypress Forest Discovered off Alabama
Geological Evidences for the Flood
Teaching Bible Stories by Using Art
Notes & References
Escape from Egypt
Logic and such
Natural World
Cities of Ash
Chart Pre-Flood

Origin of the State
The Ark of Noah has been found in southern Turkey. The 515.5 foot ark was thoroughly examined and found to closely match the 300 Egyptian royal cubits of the account in the Book of Genesis. Scientists determined that there was enough space for representatives of all the `kinds' of juvenile animals on earth which otherwise could not have survived the global Flood [5]. According to geologists, the Flood occurred in largely sequential stages:

1) Inundatory
a. eruptive
b. ascending
c. zenithic

2) Recessive
a. abative
b. dispersive

Pastor Doug's `A Tale of 2 Women

"In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights."
"And it came to pass in the six hundredth and first year, in the first [month], the first [day] of the month, the waters were dried up from off the earth: Concreted, fossilized (mineralized), sea shells abound in limestone rocks of Mission Peak, California. Such evidence for post Flood water covering dry land can be found all over the world.and Noah removed the covering of the ark, and looked, and, behold, the face of the ground was dry. And in the second month, on the seven and twentieth day of the month, was the earth dried. And God spake unto Noah, saying, Go forth of the ark, thou, and thy wife, and thy sons, and thy sons' wives with thee."
Genesis 7:11-12; 8:13-16.
According to the Bible record, the earth was twice completely covered by water. The first time during the first two days of creation until `land appeared.' The second time it was in the days of Noah. So, it is no wonder that high in the Himalayan-Tibetan Plateau, 15,000 feet (4500m) above sea level, scientists were surprised to find "thick layers of ancient lake sediment filled with plant, fish and animal fossils typical of far lower elevations and warmer, wetter climates."

For those that believe in long ages for our planet, such as team leader Wang Yang, a Florida State University geologist, the find was puzzling, as ScienceDaily explains: "That fossil evidence from the rock desert and cold, treeless steppes that now comprise Junction in Afghanistan of the Oxus and Kokcha (Amu Darya) Rivers at border of Russia - Long. 69.9, Lat. ca. 37 degr. Click image to see Satellite map of Oxus River only. Earth's highest land mass suggests a literally groundbreaking possibility: Major tectonic changes on the Tibetan Plateau may have caused it to attain its towering present-day elevations - rendering it inhospitable to the plants and animals that once thrived there - as recently as 2-3 million years ago, not millions of years earlier than that, as geologists have generally believed. The new evidence calls into question the validity of methods commonly used by scientists to reconstruct the past elevations of the region." [See here images of the lowest dry spots on earth.]

Two to three million years ago is still far more time than the Two peaks in the Himalayan mountainsBible allows for earth history - and far more time than catastrophic geology requires to account for earth's landscape. However, it's a virtual "moment" in old-earthers' chronology of earth history, especially considering previous explanations for the Himalayas have ranged in the tens of millions of years. Creationists, based on ample evidence, rely on catastrophic models of geology that can account for thick layers of sediment - laid down over short periods of time with lots of water carving and washing earth's features mostly in the past four thousand threehundred years.`[30] Amazingly the speed of layer formations may be evaluated on the basis of Trilobite tracks. Investigators found many of their tracks (cruziana) hardened in stone, but no trilobites themselves. Why? The explanation is, during the Flood, as the water became muddy, they scurried fast to get away, and then further up through a next forming layer and so on, until in same cases many trilobytes were found in the rock, when they were exhausted and could not get away anymore. [Answers, Jan/Mar 2010, p. 48]

In this case, the lake deposit was probably formed by a post-Flood lake. Water had accumulated on the Himalayan-Tibetan Plateau, which was uplifted by catastrophic plate tectonics at the end of the Flood. AiG's Dr. Andrew Snelling explains that during this rapid uplift, "Continuing rainfall erosion would have been severe, so sedimentation would have been rapid enough to bury these plants and animals to produce the fossils - all post-Flood." And all of this - including the catastrophic plate tectonics - would have been happening just over four thousand years ago.[AiG, July 2008]

As to the chronology as presented in the Bible we find they can be aligned comprehensively and understood. After months of study, we found the key to unraveling the figures when we read one Bible text.[50]

Even though geologists today, are doubters of anything out of the ordinary, they don't seem to want to draw conclusions from the experience of a) the sudden appearance of the island of Surtsey, off the coast of Iceland on Friday November 8, 1963 and how life germinated there within a rather short time, b) the rapid changes brought on by the Mt. St. Helens eruption on Sunday May 18, 1980, c) The latest event from 9-24-2013 when a 7.7 quake off the coast of SW Pakistan resulted in a small, with rough and cooling lava strewn island being formed, called Gwadar Island, similar to what happened near Iceland when Surtsey Island formed. It remains to be seen how quickly it will acquire forms of living things on its surface; d) and other, lesser known sudden flood models. When the fountains of the deep opened, these were features existing during pre-Flood times. The water of these `fountains' are now in the oceans of the world. Life had to start up again for the ark had preserved speciemen of larger creatures so they could multiply again. For we know in nature we observe the decrease of information in living things on the cellular level (DNA, RNA), it does not increase, it operates in the wrong direction for evolution to occur.[Jason Lisle, `Creation']

When asked, `If there was such a flood, where is the evidence?'

You can answer then, `The fossil record is the graveyard of the pre-Flood world.' In numerous places of the world people walk atop a massive fossil graveyard covering hundreds of square miles laid down some four thousand years ago. We can say, it is true that the fossil record is in favor of special Creation. [Edred J.H. Corner, `Evolution in Contemporary Thought', Quadrangle Books, 1961, p. 97.] Therefore, things on our planet did not occur with little water over long ages, but rather by means of much water in a short time - for that is what we actually see when we look at nature.

The Bible teaches, the great Flood occurred because of most of mankind rejecting their Maker and engaging in perpetual sinning; they just wouldn't believe in the "... my God, and the rock of my salvation." Ps. 89:26. "Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages" Eph. 3:21, the `rock of ages' anymore. Similarly today, the world is steeped in sin, but the next judgment will be by fire, not water. Agree or not, Bible prophecy points unerringly to a world and its history which will soon experience the judgments of God, the wrath of God, shortly before the Second Coming of Christ.

The lay of the land
From the ark toward the base of Mt. Ararat. The red dots are the visible outside rim of the ark from this upper end angle.
While routinely examining aerial photos of his country, a Turkish army captain suddenly gaped at the picture shown here. There, on a mountain (at #1, 25 miles from the Russian border), 20 miles Early aerial image of the arksouth of Mt. Ararat, the biblical landfall of Noah's Ark, was a boat shaped form about 500 feet long. The captain passed on the word. Soon an expedition including American scientists set out for the site.
At 7,000 feet in the midst of crevasses and landslide debries, the explorers found a clear, grassy area shaped like a ship and rimmed with steep, packed-earth sides. Its dimensions are close to those given in Genesis. "The length of the ark shall be 300 cubits, the breadth of it 50 cubits, and the height of it 30 cubits," that is 460 x 75 x 45 feet [That is 34,500 square feet and 1,552,500 cubic feet. This volume compares to 522 railway stock cars each of which can hold 240 sheep. That sounds like plenty of room for all the kinds of animals in the ark.]. A quick two day survey revealed no sign that the object was man made. Yet a scientist in the group says nothing in nature could create such a symmetrical shape. A thorough excavation may be made another year to solve the mystery.(End of article)

How could Noah fit all the animals into the ark?

A reasonable and thoughtful feasibility study concludes that the number of clean animals was relatively small and overall, only representatives of each kind with a highly adaptable gene pool of air breathing animals needed to be taken. The author concludes that a biblical "kind" is not limited to a specie or genus, it may go as high as the `family' types. The test would be which "kinds" could mate with each other. Cases of cross `genus' mating are known. There was only one horse, donkey, zebra kind. One dog, fox, wolf kind and so on. Various species derived in post-flood times from a large adaptable gene pool. Of the larger animals needed to be present only one juvenile pair. On the subject of germs, the author concludes that today's harmful germs may not have been always harmful. Pre-flood they may have lived in a different environment and only later adapted to creature hosts in a harmful way to the creatures. Much more on this subject can be read at this AiG website.

An overview of the terrain and the fossilized/petrified ark sunk in mud.
On the rugged Plateau the smooth oval form in rear center contrasts with gullied terrain around it. `Prow' points toward peaks of Agri-Tendueruk area. Turkish soldiers, who escorted the expedition, dynamited a section of the object's thick-packed-earth side. Small bits of wood but no large chunks were found in the rim. Of course one would have to look for petrified wood, not intact wood fibers. Native son in what was once Noah's territory

Overview of the collapse of the Ark.
The 20 foot high rim covering the ship's ribs would dwarf visitors. A view of ark in the middle with surroundings

A view of the splayed sides toward the tip of the ark giving an idea how, as it had decayed away, its sides crumbled outward until covered by mud and mineralisation of the wood fibers set in.
The effects of the 1978 earthquake on the remains of the ark.

A view toward the rib side of the ark.
What appear to be newly exposed , fossilized rib timbers of the Ark are shown in this view.
These features were exposed by Ron Wyatt and his team with long handled, flat sand shevels. They apparently represent slightly different colorations, thus grain variations, compared to the surrounding packed soil accumulations. In these investigations we keep in mind that recent research has shown that petrification and fossilization can occur much quicker under the right conditions than previously assumed.
But haven't the scientists determined that this site is a natural formation? Yes. All the data are not in yet, however, we ought not to assume that we still can find most of the remains intact or preserved in an easily recognizable form. The remains would be some 4500 years old. While historians may claim that they can find remains much older and still intact, we believe, that is based on a false chronology and false dating systems. Nothing of post Flood human origin is older than the ark would be. We would suggest that the `ribs' shown are not wooden ribs, at the most they are certain types of sand grains which accumulated where the ribs completely decayed. The same should apply for the rest of the wooden parts and also the metal parts for that matter. The ark would have been subject to post Flood severe changes in climate. Therefore, when scientists today report that they discovered the earth's polar regions showed growth of palm tress everywhere, that is proof that Creation is true, for before the Flood, the climate of the earth was equally in equilibrium everywhere.[See Fox News, July 31, 2012.] Noah's ark remains

Closeup of the limestone peak on which the ark was impaled. Closeup of the limestone peak which impaled Noah's Ark and stopped its descend.
Yes, we know the reports that the limestone outcropping contains `foraminifera' micro-fossils. Are we to conclude that this rock is post flood on that basis? While that may be a conclusion, we cannot rule out that such rocks also formed in the pre-flood world where death reigned already for some 1600 years or close to it. While the catastrophic flood caused great upheavals, there may be places where not all of these pre-flood areas slid down to the lowest spots.

Ark area features: Wet spot near the ark site
God's promise of no more world wide Flood is good till He Comes Again. Do they - do we know it?

Height of the ribs on the side of Noah's ark
The height of the ribs of Noah's ark where they are best preserved.

Ararat, intrusive volcanoes
The two Mt. Ararat peaks are post-Flood, intrusive volcanoes as this satellite image shows. That is a reason why Noah's ark cannot be found on these peaks, it must be looked for in the surrounding hill country.[400]

Imposing site of 16046 foot Mt. Ararat
Ark view to imposing Mt. Ararat

A metallic rivet fastener from Noah's Ark. A metallic rivet fastener of Noah's Ark
Fossilized rivet of Noah's Ark in situ A geologist's delight
\/ Another find with rivet like features.
We think that detractors are being too quickly judgmental on these findings. A number of discoveries have been taken away from the ark site by those who thought (probably correctly so) that others would come and destroy/take them anyway since the site was not being protected. If we could organize to bring all these finds together and then investigate them, that would be a better approach to come to conclusions.

These rash judgmental conclusions, even though some are experts in geology and such, is a bit premature. We don't believe they were made according to having seen these numbers of items to base them on. - Gentlemen, the ark remains are somewhere. So let us not be so hasty.
\/ Petrified wood having been sawed.
Another rivet like find, picture from Australia where it was removed to.
Petrified wood sample which has been sawed intending to show lack of growth rings, from a sample removed to Australia.
\/ Metallic ballast tailings from Noah's Ark.
Noah's Ark ballast metallic tailings
Similar stones were probably used suspended from the giant ship to stabilize it during the storm. The bouancy of the water would lessen the weight of these stones. However, these stones found near Turkish villages differ from real anchor stones in that the hole is too close to the edge and probably would easily brake off from the weight of the stone. Well, either that or else they were made at later times as a memorial for the pilgrims of the ages coming to see the site as Josephus confirms.
\/ Memorial Stone
Memorial stone
Pilgrim made or ark ballast stone? Above: Example of Israelite anchor stones show what such stones were used for.
Left: Carved Byzantian, early Christian crosses testify to the ark site as a destination for pilgrims. Some stones show one large cross and seven smaller, the family of Noah. About 17 of such large stones were found.

It was the Jewish historian Flavius Josephus who tells us about the site of the Ark. He wrote:

"However, the Armenians call this place `The Place of Descent'; for the ark being saved in that place, its remains are shewn there by the inhabitants to this day." [Josephus, Antiquities, Bk. I, ch. III, Sec. 5][500]

Obviously, his remarks indicate that the site had been visited over a long period of time during ancient times.

Tonw in eastern Turkey near the Iranian border and ark site.
The apparent drawing of a Babel like tower on one of the commemorative stones near the ark site.[The shadow is the camera of a photographer.]

Question: What convinces you at CIAS that this is the site where Noah's ark rests?

Answer: Several points come to mind. The road to the ark siteAmong the finds in the area was a commemorative stone showing a drawn `Tower of Babel' like structure as we had them in our children books. Now, I tend to think that these were made by visitors during the Christian era, a good many years before our time and that is why we find such images. What it does tell me, is that this very site was regarded as the `Ark Site' long before the prejudices of our time. In addition the several other finds which were made and which we feature are sufficient reasons, that this is the site.

Question: But haven't these finds been debunked?

Answer: Yes, people debunk everything that crosses one's own ideas. They deny the samples and measurements and so on. They also deny common sense in some cases and they would probably have denied that God would destroy the pre-flood world had they lived in those times.

Ron Wyatt's Scientific Experiment on the Hydrodynamics of a Randomly Floating Object in Open Island Waters

National Geography apparently is planning an expedition to 18854 foot (5137 meters) Mt. Ararat in eastern Turkey to try and locate the Ark of Noah. The words,

"And the ark rested in the 7th month, on the 17th day, upon the mountains of Ararat." Genesis 8:4; it is supposed to be where the Apostle Jude/Judas, the brother of James (Luke 6:16), was killed by being shot with arrows.

The features found seem to indicate that the ark came to be grounded somewhere in the mountain range called Ararat. Today's Mt. Ararat is an intrusive volcano which must have erupted at the site after the Flood. In 1848, a massive Mt. St. Helen like eruption blew away the north-east side of the volcano. On the basis of Mr. Wyatt's [1000] first hand knowledge from living in the Hawaiian Islands convinced him, if the ark would have rested on the mountain, it would have been destroyed at that time. For this reason alone those who intend to find the ark remains on the top of this peak will be disappointed.

Closeup of an ark rock vein of the larger image above It was the discoverer Ron Wyatt who had, on the basis of some 1975 experiments with a model ship in a mountain stream, discovered how such man made objects behave when drifting toward an artificial, lonely mountain peak he molded in open water. He tried various `mountainous' configurations and floated the ship model toward them. What he learned was that a ship approaching a simple peak extending out of the water would cause it to simply float around it, not approaching and certainly not landing on it. This phenomena was governed by the natural laws of the "lateral displacement" of obstructed gas or liquid flow.

"He continued this experiment with several shapes with the same result each time. That is, until he built a "crescent-shaped" formation with the crescent facing down-flow. When the model ark accelerated around this "crescent-shape" mountain,, he saw that it was pulled into the area within the crescent by the "eddy" effect, where it then gently floated within that area.

With this bit of information, Ron felt like the ark would have had to have landed on such a location. The laws of hydrodynamics and water action and reaction were the same then and now. If the ark had approached a mountain peak extending out of the water, the water displacement around the mountain would have carried the ark with it.

The study of water as a fluid, with its unique properties, and the study of hydrodynamics (fluid mechanics) and wave causation and motion is a most involved and complicated science. The actions and reactions of water, and an object floating on that water, cannot possibly be studied in depth here -- but some simple rules must be understood.

If your ship on the open sea approaches a mountain extending out of the ocean, only one of two things can happen.

1) the ship will be carried around the mountain with the lateral water displacement, or
2) the waves can be of such force and direction that they carry the ship right into the side of the mountain, with such force that the ship would break into pieces.

But it would NOT come to rest on that steep mountain side. It just wouldn't happen. And if that mountain peak were directly under the ship and the waters slowly descended, the ship STILL wouldn't land on the mountainside (such as on Mt. Ararat). The water displacement and movement around the underwater mountain would still cause the ship to be removed from the mass (of the mountain) with the water.

The necessary criteria for a ship to land on a mountainside as sea waters descend would involve a process by which the water displacement would trap the ship within an area, such as an eddy could do. At least, that's what Ron believed and still believes."

Therefore, the most recent expedition which found wood on Mt. Ararat would have to assume the ark crashed into the mountain breaking it apart and thus "unloading" its passengers - a very unlikely scenario. Looking at the images via the news media, does not allow any conclusion.

The Discovery and Exploration of Noah's Ark

The September 5, 1960 `Life Magazine' article of the U-2 spy plane photos read like this:

"While routinely examining aerial photos of his country, a Turkish army captain suddenly gaped at the picture shown above. There, on a mountain 20 miles south of Mt. Ararat, the biblical landfall of Noah's Ark, was a boat-shaped form about 500 feet long.[1100] The captain passed on the word. Soon an expedition including American scientists set out for the site.

At 7,000 feet, in the midst of crevasses and landslide debris, the explorers found a clear, grassy area shaped like a ship and rimmed with steep, packed-earth sides. Its dimensions are close to those given in Genesis: 'The length of the ark shall be 300 cubits, the breadth of it 50 cubits, and the height of it 30 cubits,' that is, 450x75x45 feet. A quick two-day survey revealed no sign that the object was man made. Yet a scientist in the group says, `nothing in nature could create such a symmetrical shape. A thorough excavation may be made another year to solve the mystery'."

The splayed, 186 foot wide remains of the `Nu'hun Gemisi', Turkish for `Noah's Ship', allowed Wyatt to calculate that the ship would have measured almost 86 feet wide, 51 ½ feet high and 515 feet long. Map of the Ark location Not until 1977 was he able to travel to the site which is located near the village of `Dogubeyazit' near the Iranian border. On this visit, having obtained all necessary permits, he was shown several very large anchor stones several of which had 8 crosses carved in its surface. In a very ancient looking grave yard he was shown tombstones showing a simple rendition of a three story ship. He photographed these but when toward the end of his stay the locals tried to rob him and he had to flee he lost some of these images.

A very ancient house with thick stone walls and a spread out area of stone fences seemed to Ron that this could have been the site of Noah's post Flood home. In the summer they would have lived in tents and in the winter in a protective stone house as local people still do today. Not far behind the ruins of this `house' was a park like hilly area. In the middle of the hill he photographed a 12x12x12 foot, sqarish, altar like stone pile. The evidence in the surrounding rock fenced area showed signs of preparing animals for sacrifice, all of which Ron documented at the time.

While all indicators seem to confirm that the ark has been found, we do not know where it was constructed. Remains of what appears to be mineralized wood, even laminated wood with nails, have been found but its origin can hardly be determined. While hurricanes can be devastating, they are no match to the Noachian Flood which was driven more by simultaneous tectonic upheavals which wiped out any Pre-Flood landmarks.

The story of Noah and the Flood was kept alive as folklore in a number of cultures. In Sanskrit, we are told, the name `Manu' is very likely derived from Noah (MaNU=Noah?).

News of the 1978 earthquake in the area of the ark remains prompted Ron to return to the location in 1979. He found `evenly spaced indentations on the ark like object, which looked like decaying rib timbers.Noah's Altar - older image of the artificial rock assembly of great size and obviously made for people of larger stature. The earthquake had also cracked the remains of the ark from "stem to stern" and Ron, having government permits, was able to take samples from deep within. He also took samples of material outside of the object for comparison. Galbraith Labs in Knoxville, Tennessee tested the samples and determined the outside sample contained 1.88% carbon; but the one from inside the crack yielded a 4.95% carbon, an amount that was consistent with the presence of prior living matter, such as decayed or petrified wood. Hopefully, in time, more data will show this pattern better. The lab results also showed a surprisingly high iron content.

The Ballast from the Bottom of Noah's Ark

Quite a ways up the mountainside, Ron and his guide found the very interesting section of earth measuring 120 x 40 feet, which was rimmed by what appeared to be petrified wood, and within its perimeter was a massive amount of strange looking "rock". Noah's Altar - 2005 image of the altar rocks. This "rock" was quite heavy and tinged green in places, and therefore Ron believed it to be some type of metal. He had an idea as to what the wood perimeter was but perhaps a lab analysis of the "rock" material would help confirm his idea. Ron suspected that the `metallic (84.14% manganese dioxide)' remains above the site was actually a portion of the bottom of the ship which had sunk into the mud as the flood waters subsided. When the earth was dried, this section was firmly embedded in the ground, and as the ark was swept down the mountainside, this portion was ripped away.

Ark Carried Down in Mud/Lava Flow

Since the boat shaped object is located in a mud-flow which contains remnants of volcanic rock, Ron believed this mud-flow was actually a deteriorated lava flow [1500]. The boat shaped object looked exactly like a ship wreck, but it was impaled on a very large outcropping of limestone directly through from the western side to its mid-section. To Ron, it looked as if the ship had been transported down the mountainside by the lava flow (which covered the ship) and, sliding sideways, it was impaled on this large outcropping of limestone which caused it to be "racked", exactly like a car, that it literally wrapped around a `telephone pole'.

The strange looking "rock" he found within this perimeter was very similar in appearance to "rock" he found just below the lower section of the ship's tip - a broken off section.

He theorized that some rocks at the tip were ballast material placed in the hull of the Ark, and when the portion of the bottom was ripped off, a large amount of ballast fell out. Other ballast which remained in the intact portion of the ark was now falling out from the broken off lower section.

Mr. Wyatt's last trip to Turkey was in 1984. Since then Turkish scientists confirmed Ron's metal detecting outlines above the interior of the `ark'. But even today, the doubting `Thomases' are still not seeing the light and want to find the ark on the Greater Mt. Ararat itself. Whatever the object is sticking out of the snow - is it a ship? Or is it a barn? Or is it the first, old Hyatt Regency Hotel?

Subsequent investigations showed that the `ark' site was a much venerated place and had been visited anciently by many people, some of whom were buried there. Today the site is fenced in and protected by the Turkish government.

CIAS Archaeological Squares

Top - stern
Bottom - bow
Intrusive rock - A,12-14;
Rib timbers - A,1-10;
Rivets - A,1-22;

Origin of the State

Available Data on the Remains of Noahs Ark

We believe enough evidence has been found to affirm that the remains of the Ark of Noah have been located. Therefore, we believe now that the Flood (and the Exodus Account) are new pillars upon which we can rely and which validate the Old Testament historical aspects against everything that has been said before on this topic. History has come full circle, the pendulum swings now the other way.

Finding several large, industrial size, mineralized metal alloy rivet like fasteners with a washer at the site of the `Ark of Noah' in southern Turkey, has been an eye opener for those who saw the reports. These rivets with their washer measure about 5 inches in diameter. Here is what was found.

Sample Lab No.
Ark-rod: 1-9175




Detecting aluminum is of special interest for it does not occur naturally but is an alloy which today is made in various ways depending how it is to be used. One of these alloy combinations containing iron also contains portions of Carbon, Silicon, Manganese, Phosphor, Iron and Sulfur. Of these Iron is the main ingredient followed by Carbon of about 2-4%. We may assume that the aluminum detected was not produced on purpose but an accidental product by combining portions of some of the elements referred to. However, the quantity detected is surprising. We know that manganese was found in some quantity and all other elements are readily available in nature. It appears from this that men were roaming around their land bringing together metal ore where ever they could find it for the project at hand.

Following the biblical account closely, the ark was built from pre-Flood materials. Since that world vanished we cannot determine today where around the globe the ark was constructed and how far it drifted during the ca. 140 day period it was afloat (Gen. 7:11 & 8:4). We can also deduce that the long life attributed to the pre-Flood patriarchs lend itself wonderfully in learning the science of all there was to learn in their time. Sadly, today, schools, colleges and universities teach many errors. A survey from a few years back (before 2011) showed that 83% believed in Genesis 1 & 2; 60% believed that God created the world; 42% of students would consider themselves young earth Christians. When the plans for building this big ship were made, we ought not to be surprised that the need for rivet like connectors was clearly recognized and a given in order to hold the mighty planks of wood together. Producing glue by burning bones and boiling hide was also easily within the realm of experimental discoveries among the workmen of Noah. Since they could produce metal implements, they probably also could produce metals of varying degrees of hardness, by accident or after time by design, to be used as tools, nails, flat irons, joints, rivets, metal wedges, cooking pots and perhaps metal crucibles to name a few. While in science as understood today, only real evidence can be used to postulate such points made just now, we are happy to say, that ancient, various metals containing objects were found in the vicinity of the ark. Because of their composition, these are not easily explained as natural occurring finds, but must have been man made. As of now no scientific excavation of the ark has taken place, only random finds from likely spots have been preserved so far. We think we know at least one main expectation of the Turkish government with respect to which archaeological team would be allowed to dig there.

Friday, December 15, 2000, 8:59 PM
subject long boat

Hello, I.R., a New Zealand man interested in boats and biblical stuff, phoned me and asked if I could calculate the distance between two GPS locations that he recorded in eastern Turkey, shortly after the GPS error was removed from the satellite transmission.

The numbers he got were ...

North 39 deg 26.395 decimal
East 044 deg 14.017
North 39 deg 26.475
East 044 deg 14.108
He said he moved quickly between locations to minimize error from Satellite drift. I took the numbers to a friend (name given), who is a mathematics scientist, and he found the appropriate formula for calculating distance between spherical locations.

The answer popped up on the computer screen and he said, "157 metres."
So I asked what is that in feet and he changed the program to show feet, and he said, "516 feet."
Then the number 20.623 inches per cubit came to mind, so I got him to alter the program once more.
The answer that popped up on the screen .... 300 cubits.

I then directed one of the computers there to `www.anchorstone.com' and found the 1959 aerial photograph of Noah's ark.

With my experience with GPS, I would put the error at less than 2 meters.

The official recorded elevation measurements leading to a 126 foot difference from rear to tip, were:

Location Latitude Longitude Elevation
Date: 10-11-2000 -- Mount Ararat 39 deg 49 sec North 44 deg 18 sec East 16946 feet
C Naoh's Ark - front 39 deg 26' 08" N 44 deg 14' 06.6"E 6449 feet
B Noah's Ark - mid 39 deg 26' 26" N 44 deg 14' 05.3" E 6524 feet
Barometric reading: 23.80 A Noah's Ark - rear 39 deg 26' 23.8" N 44 deg 14' 05.3" E 6575 feet
* Anchor stone #1 39 deg 37' 31.6 N 43 deg 59' 42.2" E 5458 feet

The approximate alignment north to south of the ark in relationship to Mt. Ararat.
Approximate alignment north to south in relation to Mt. Ararat in back (Michael A. Bonilla, Ark File, 2000)

Have a merry Christmas, from K.P.

Note: According to the biblical record, the ark of Noah was to be 300 cubits long, 50 cubits wide and 30 cubits in height (Genesis 6:15). The length of this cubit was understood to be the Egyptian royal cubit which has been determined to be 20.623 inches in length. This makes sense also in light of Moses having been the man who put together the `toledoth' of Genesis. Measuring the remains of Noah's ark gave 515 feet in length, 138 feet wide after the ark had decayed enough for it to fall apart in such a way that the rib timbers fell by their own weight to their respective sides and the bow and stern falling and each of these producing the additional length and width measurements obtained. The original size in feet was 508 feet in length, 85 feet 9 inches in width and 51 feet 5 inches in height. The interior substructure of what remains of the posts has been estimated to reach from 12 feet in the front to 25 feet in the middle and 8 feet at the rear. The numbers thought to account for what could be discerned from the surface are from front to rear: 12, 16, 22, 25, 21, 16, 13, 8 - in regular intervals. As the remains of the ark indicate, the ship was not built like a box but in regular ship shape, so to speak. Symbolically speaking the ark was a place of safety.

Hard facts and their numbers

Numbers like that, as well as site artifacts, speak for themselves. They are concrete evidence that something important may be discovered at the location. Something which promises to provide the long sought answers to what happened in those long gone days otherwise only known from the biblical record. The data provided above are better data than mute fossils could ever provide even though such were found at Noah's ark site too and we shall discuss them. We have actual, physical size measurements in close agreement with the biblical record.

Approximate alignment north to south in relation to Mt. Ararat in back Organic derived remains discovered included petrified wood with what appear to be nails, evidence of wood glue apparently used to glue flat wood together, fossilized finger bones, most closely matching those of human fingers, which by comparison are larger than fingers humans have today. Items which appear to be fossilized fruits of the size of a cantaloupe, and miscellaneous bones. How these relate to the ark itself may be more difficult to determine, but they appear to have been buried within the confines of the ark since the time the ship landed or very close to it. Why human appearing bones were found at the location may not be obvious today.

The chemical analysis of a rivet revealed 21.1% Silicon, 8.67% Iron, 8.51% Aluminum, 2.52% Potassium, 2.55% Calcium, 2.48% Sodium, 1.61% Titanium, 1.33% Magnesium, 0.47% Phosphorous, 0.17% Manganese and 0.13% Carbon. All other elements were less than 0.1%. The low Carbon content makes it non-organic.

That after some 4400 years this array of metals was still detected is quite a surprise and shows the antiquity of the material from a time when anything that looked like metal containing rock was molten down and made into desired implements.

"The Possible Oxide Composition Location 2 of a "Rivet".
Note: When an object undergoes the process of fossilization, as its material decays it is replaced by material in the surrounding soil or water. The analysis revealed exactly what would be expected to be found in a fossilized metal washer and rivet (non-living matter) attached to a piece of fossilized wood (once living matter, See below).Fossil wood from the ark site

The calculated numbers obtained were:

45.20% SiO2
15.84% Al2O3
10.02% Fe2O3
03.97% CaO
03.44% Na2O
03.00% K2O
02.93% TiO2
01.98% MgO
01.23% P2O5
00.30% MnO2
Note: The discovery of titanium in the "Rivet" is of special interest. The advantage of titanium as a metal is its tremendous strength, its light weight and its resistance to corrosion. All of the analyses performed on the "Rivet" found it to contain Iron, Aluminum, Manganese, Vanadium and Chromium. These elements are known today to be the major alloying agents added to titanium." [Wyatt Museum information]

The Truth About Noah and The Flood
E.G. White

In the days of Noah a double curse was resting upon the earth in consequence of Adam's transgression and of the murder committed by Cain.[2500] Yet this had not greatly changed the face of nature. There were evident tokens of decay, but the earth was still rich and beautiful in the gifts of God's providence. The hills were crowned with majestic trees supporting the fruit-laden branches of the vine. The vast, gardenlike plains were clothed with verdure, and sweet with the fragrance of a thousand flowers. The fruits of the earth were in great variety, and almost without limit. The trees far surpassed in size [2508], beauty, and perfect proportion any now to be found; their wood was of fine grain and hard substance, closely resembling stone, and hardly less enduring.[2510] Gold, silver, and precious stones existed in abundance.

The human race yet retained much of its early vigor. Adam was probbaly more than twice as tall as people are today, and his perfectly proportioned weight would then have been something like over 2200 lbs, and his vital forces 20 times higher than ours today. But a few generations had passed since Adam had access to the tree which was to prolong life; and man's existence was still measured by centuries. Had that long-lived people, with their rare powers to plan and execute, devoted themselves to the service of God, they would have made their Creator's name a praise in the earth, and would have answered the purpose for which He gave them life. But they failed to do this. There were many giants, men of great stature and strength, renowned for wisdom, skillful in devising the most cunning and wonderful works; but their guilt in giving loose rein to iniquity was in proportion to their skill and mental ability.[2515]

God bestowed upon these antediluvians many and rich gifts; but they used His bounties to glorify themselves, and turned them into a curse by fixing their affections upon the gifts instead of the Giver. They employed the gold and silver, the precious stones and the choice wood, in the construction of habitations for themselves, and endeavored to excel one another in beautifying their dwellings with the most skillful workmanship. They sought only to gratify the desires of their own proud hearts, and reveled in scenes of pleasure and wickedness. Not desiring to retain God in their knowledge, they soon came to deny His existence. They adored nature in place of the God of nature. They glorified human genius, worshiped the works of their own hands, and taught their children to bow down to graven images.

In the green fields and under the shadow of the goodly trees they set up the altars of their idols. Extensive groves, that retained their foliage throughout the year, were dedicated to the worship of false gods. With these groves were connected beautiful gardens, their long, winding avenues overhung with fruit-bearing trees of all descriptions, adorned with statuary, and furnished with all that could delight the senses or minister to the voluptuous desires of the people, and thus allure them to participate in the idolatrous worship.

Men put God out of their knowledge and worshiped the creatures of their own imagination; and as the result, they became more and more debased.[2580] The psalmist describes the effect produced upon the worshiper by the adoration of idols. He says, "They that make them are like unto them; so is every one that trusteth in them." Psalm 115:8. It is a law of the human mind that by beholding we become changed. Man will rise no higher than his conceptions of truth, purity, and holiness. If the mind is never exalted above the level of humanity, if it is not uplifted by faith to contemplate infinite wisdom and love, the man will be constantly sinking lower and lower. The worshipers of false gods clothed their deities with human attributes and passions, and thus their standard of character was degraded to the likeness of sinful humanity. They were defiled in consequence. "God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. . . . The earth also was corrupt before God; and the earth was filled with violence." Gen. 6:5,11. God had given men His commandments as a rule of life, but His law was transgressed, and every conceivable sin was the result. The wickedness of men was open and daring, justice was trampled in the dust, and the cries of the oppressed reached unto heaven.[2585]

Polygamy had been early introduced, contrary to the divine arrangement at the beginning.[2586] The Lord gave to Adam one wife, showing His order in that respect. But after the Fall, men chose to follow their own sinful desires; and as the result, crime and wretchedness rapidly increased. Neither the marriage relation nor the rights of property were respected. Whoever coveted the wives or the possessions of his neighbor, took them by force, and men exulted in their deeds of violence. They delighted in destroying the life of animals; and the use of flesh for food rendered them still more cruel and bloodthirsty, until they came to regard human life with astonishing indifference.

The world was in its infancy; yet iniquity had become so deep and widespread that God could no longer bear with it; and He said, "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth." (Gen. 6:7,13) He declared that His Spirit should not always strive with the guilty race.[2587] If they did not cease to pollute with their sins the world and its rich treasures, He would blot them from His creation, and would destroy the things with which He had delighted to bless them; He would sweep away the beasts of the field, and the vegetation which furnished such an abundant supply of food, and would transform the fair earth into one vast scene of desolation and ruin.

The 120 Year Countdown

Amid the prevailing corruption, Methuselah, Noah, and many others labored to keep alive the knowledge of the true God and to stay the tide of moral evil. A hundred and twenty years before the Flood [2590], the Lord by a holy angel declared to Noah His purpose, and directed him to build an ark. While building the ark he was to preach that God would bring a flood of water upon the earth to destroy the wicked. Those who would believe the message, and would prepare for that event by repentance and reformation, should find pardon and be saved. Enoch had repeated to his children what God had shown him in regard to the Flood, and Methuselah and his sons, who lived to hear the preaching of Noah, assisted in building the ark. God gave Noah the exact dimensions of the ark and explicit directions in regard to its construction in every particular. Human wisdom could not have devised a structure of so great strength and durability. God was the designer, and Noah the master builder. It was constructed like the hull of a ship, that it might float upon the water, but in some respects it more nearly resembled a house. It was three stories high, with but one door, which was in the side. The light was admitted at the top, and the different apartments were so arranged that all were lighted. (Gen. 6:15,16) The material employed in the construction of the ark was the cypress, or gopher wood, which would be untouched by decay for hundreds of years. The building of this immense structure was a slow and laborious process. On account of the great size of the trees and the nature of the wood, much more labor was required then than now to prepare timber, even with the greater strength which men then possessed. All that man could do was done to render the work perfect, yet the ark could not of itself have withstood the storm which was to come upon the earth. God alone could preserve His servants upon the tempestuous waters. The same way is a church. If it were not for the storm outside, some could not stand the stench inside. Each church has people in different stages of maturity and Bible knowledge. As in art, images do not begin to form until the colors are blended, so truth must develop in each mind. It is called unity in diversity; it becomes more united, however, only when people do study. Today, with less time before Christ comes we ought to study speedily. The place of the church in the plan of Jesus Christ is awesome, let us be more loving to our individual church members, be more worthy. Never neglect to say a friendly word, make a friendly gesture - especially when you say good bye at the end of the service in the foyer.

"By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith." Hebrews 11:7. While Noah was giving his warning message to the world, his works testified of his sincerity. It was thus that his faith was perfected and made evident. He gave the world an example of believing just what God says. All that he possessed, he invested in the ark. As he began to construct that immense boat on dry ground, multitudes came from every direction to see the strange sight and to hear the earnest, fervent words of the singular preacher. Every blow struck upon the ark was a witness to the people.

Many at first appeared to receive the warning; yet they did not turn to God with true repentance. They were unwilling to renounce their sins.

And so we may say, life comes and passes quickly. The man or woman who lives fast and hard for passing pleasures and soda pop bubbles receives only those. An hour on the stage and then one is gone. For the wicked, his life is only a tale of losing eternity out of his future. No matter how much sound he makes, the unrepentant sinner soon disappears; he leaves behind him only a testimony against himself. But when his raid on life is over, when his abuse of the world is ended, where will he be? He will be gone. But the one who copied Jesus' character, who lived as a Christian, who settled only for the presence of Christ in him (Colossians 1:27-29), he will remain standing.
The righteous one has something that the wicked does not. He is not living in his own strength. Christ lives in Him. So he succeeds at last.

During the time that elapsed before the coming of the Flood, their faith was tested, and they failed to endure the trial. Overcome by the prevailing unbelief, they finally joined their former associates in rejecting the solemn message. Some were deeply convicted, and would have heeded the words of warning; but there were so many to jest and ridicule, that they partook of the same spirit, resisted the invitations of mercy, and were soon among the boldest and most defiant scoffers; for none are so reckless and go to such lengths in sin as do those who have once had light, but have resisted the convicting Spirit of God.[2593]

The men of that generation were not all, in the fullest acceptation of the term, idolaters. Many professed to be worshipers of God. They claimed that their idols were representations of the Deity, and that through them the people could obtain a clearer conception of the divine Being. This class were foremost in rejecting the preaching of Noah. As they endeavored to represent God by material objects, their minds were blinded to His majesty and power; they ceased to realize the holiness of His character, or the sacred, unchanging nature of His requirements. As sin became general, it appeared less and less sinful, and they finally declared that the divine law was no longer in force; that it was contrary to the character of God to punish transgression; and they denied that His judgments were to be visited upon the earth. Had the men of that generation obeyed the divine law, they would have recognized the voice of God in the warning of His servant; but their minds had become so blinded by rejection of light that they really believed Noah's message to be a delusion.

It was not multitudes or majorities that were on the side of right. The world was arrayed against God's justice and His laws, and Noah was regarded as a fanatic. Satan, when tempting Eve to disobey God, said to her, "Ye shall not surely die." Genesis 3:4. Great men, worldly, honored, and wise men, repeated the same. "The threatenings of God," they said, "are for the purpose of intimidating, and will never be verified. You need not be alarmed. Such an event as the destruction of the world by the God who made it, and the punishment of the beings He has created, will never take place. Be at peace; fear not. Noah is a wild fanatic." The world made merry at the folly of the deluded old man. Instead of humbling the heart before God, they continued their disobedience and wickedness, the same as though God had not spoken to them through His servant.

In the days of Noah the overwhelming majority was opposed to the truth, and enamored with a tissue of falsehoods. Their way of thinking was not right (Gen. 6:5). The land was filled with violence. War, crime, murder, was the order of the day (Gen. 6:5,13). Just so will it be before Christ's second coming (Mt. 24:37,38).

Plainer and plainer is it becoming that the inhabitants of the world are not in harmony with God. No scientific theory can explain the steady march of evil workers under the generalship of Satan. In every mob wicked angels are at work, rousing men to commit deeds of violence.

The perversity and cruelty of men will reach such a height that God will reveal Himself in His majesty. Very soon the wickedness of the world will have reached its limit and, as in the days of Noah, God will pour out His judgments.

But Noah stood like a rock amid the tempest. Surrounded by popular contempt and ridicule, he distinguished himself by his holy integrity and unwavering faithfulness. A power attended his words, for it was the voice of God to man through His servant. Connection with God made him strong in the strength of infinite power, while for one hundred and twenty years his solemn voice fell upon the ears of that generation in regard to events, which, so far as human wisdom could judge, were impossible.

Pre-Flood Scientists Declared A Flood As Impossible

The world before the Flood reasoned that for centuries the laws of nature had been fixed. The recurring seasons had come in their order. Heretofore rain had never fallen; the earth had been watered by a mist or dew, Genesis 3:8.[2605] The rivers had never yet passed their boundaries, but had borne their waters safely to the sea. Fixed decrees had kept the waters from overflowing their banks. But these reasoners did not recognize the hand of Him who had stayed the waters, saying, "Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further." Job 38:7-11.[2606]

As time passed on, with no apparent change in nature, men whose hearts had at times trembled with fear, began to be reassured. They reasoned, as many reason now, that nature is above the God of nature, and that her laws are so firmly established that God Himself could not change them. Reasoning that if the message of Noah were correct, nature would be turned out of her course, they made that message, in the minds of the world, a delusion--a grand deception. They manifested their contempt for the warning of God by doing just as they had done before the warning was given. They continued their festivities and their gluttonous feasts; they ate and drank, planted and builded, laying their plans in reference to advantages they hoped to gain in the future; and they went to greater lengths in wickedness, and in defiant disregard of God's requirements, to testify that they had no fear of the Infinite One. They asserted that if there were any truth in what Noah had said, the men of renown--the wise, the prudent, the great men--would understand the matter.

Had the antediluvians believed the warning, and repented of their evil deeds, the Lord would have turned aside His wrath, as He afterward did from Nineveh, Jonah 3:9,10. But by their obstinate resistance to the reproofs of conscience and the warnings of God's prophet, that generation filled up the measure of their iniquity, and became ripe for destruction.

The period of their probation was about to expire. Noah had faithfully followed the instructions which he had received from God. The ark was finished in every part as the Lord had directed, and was stored with food for man and beast. And now the servant of God made his last solemn appeal to the people. With an agony of desire that words cannot express, he entreated them to seek a refuge while it might be found. Again they rejected his words, and raised their voices in jest and scoffing. Suddenly a silence fell upon the mocking throng. Beasts of every description, the fiercest as well as the most gentle, were seen coming from mountain and forest and quietly making their way toward the ark. A noise as of a rushing wind was heard, and lo, birds were flocking from all directions, their numbers darkening the heavens, and in perfect order they passed to the ark. Animals obeyed the command of God, while men were disobedient. Guided by holy angels, they "went in two and two unto Noah into the ark," (Gen. 7:9) and the clean beasts by sevens.[2680] The world looked on in wonder, some in fear. Philosophers were called upon to account for the singular occurrence, but in vain. It was a mystery which they could not fathom. But men had become so hardened by their persistent rejection of light that even this scene produced but a momentary impression. As the doomed race beheld the sun shining in its glory, and the earth clad in almost Eden beauty, they banished their rising fears by boisterous merriment, and by their deeds of violence they seemed to invite upon themselves the visitation of the already awakened wrath of God.

God commanded Noah, "Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before Me in this generation." Gen. 7:1. Noah's warnings had been rejected by the world, but his influence and example resulted in blessings to his family. As a reward for his faithfulness and integrity, God saved all the members of his family with him. What encouragement to parental fidelity!

After 120 years of Noah preaching about the need to repent and make things right with God, only his family was saved. All his preaching may seem to us as a failure, however, it teaches us that God does not regard numbers but what is in the heart of man only. We recall, when Enoch was 365 years old, God took him, for he was just.

The 7 Day Countdown

Mercy had ceased its pleadings for the guilty race. The beasts of the field and the birds of the air had entered the place of refuge. On that certain Sabbath, Noah and his household were within the ark, "and the Lord shut him in." (Gen. 7:16) A flash of dazzling light was seen, and a cloud of glory more vivid than the lightning descended from heaven and hovered before the entrance of the ark (cmpr. Eze. 1:14). The massive door, which it was impossible for those within to close, was slowly swung to its place by unseen hands. Noah was shut in, and the rejecters of God's mercy were shut out. The seal of Heaven was on that door; God had shut it, and God alone could open it. [2700] So when Christ shall cease His intercession for guilty men, before His coming in the clouds of heaven, the door of mercy will be shut. Then divine grace will no longer restrain the wicked, and Satan will have full control of those who have rejected mercy. They will endeavor to destroy God's people; but as Noah was shut into the ark, so the righteous will be shielded by divine power.

For seven days after Noah and his family entered the ark, there appeared no sign of the coming storm. During this period their faith was tested. It was a time of triumph to the world without. The apparent delay confirmed them in the belief that Noah's message was a delusion, and that the Flood would never come.[2720] Notwithstanding the solemn scenes which they had witnessed--the beasts and birds entering the ark, and the angel of God closing the door--they still continued their sport and revelry, even making a jest of these signal manifestations of God's power. They gathered in crowds about the ark, deriding its inmates with a daring violence which they had never ventured upon before. The last few times Noah preached to them, he stood with quivering lips and tearful eyes, telling them that his work was done, but loud, coarse mocking, scoffs and insults more determined were heaped upon him. `Enthusiast,' `fanatic,' `crazy,' he hears them say. God had opened a door to the world through the preaching of Noah, so they might find shelter and safety if they just believed the message sent from God. All he could do was bid them farewell and the door was shut. So it will be in the end.

But upon the eighth day beyond the Sabbath dark clouds overspread the heavens. There followed the muttering of thunder and the flash of lightning. Soon large drops of rain began to fall.[2730] The world had never witnessed anything like this, and the hearts of men were struck with fear. We learn now the last words and thoughts of the people, Gen. 4:13,14-17; 5:24, 29; 6:2-5. All were secretly inquiring, "Can it be that World wide floodNoah was in the right, and that the world is doomed to destruction?" Darker and darker grew the heavens, and faster came the falling rain. The beasts were roaming about in the wildest terror, and their discordant cries seemed to moan out their own destiny and the fate of man. Then "the fountains of the great deep" were "broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened." (Gen. 7:11; 8:2) Water appeared to come from the clouds in mighty cataracts. Rivers broke away from their boundaries, and overflowed the valleys. Jets of water burst from the earth with indescribable force, throwing massive rocks hundreds of feet into the air, and these, in falling, buried themselves deep in the ground. Our earth was created with a perfectly balanced nuclear core in the beginning. At some point - in 2303 BC - that balance was disturbed causing large underground water reservoirs to heat up and erupt through the surface of the earth.

The Present is not the Key to the Past

When we look at geological features around the world, many of them are radically different from anything being formed today - like thick mud layers over continents, or coal seems covering entire states, or fossil graveyards, or frozen mammoths, or miles of underground cave passages, or thick ice sheets moving over continents, or craters of super-volcanoes, or canyons cut thousands of feet deep. It looks like the present is not the best way to interpret the geological features of the past. The Bible, however, offers another way to explain features of the past, Noah's Flood was a divine judgment, a violent catastrophe that came upon the earth. Based on this truth as brought to us in God's word, scientists are beginning to develop a series of models to explain how the Flood and its aftermath could have shaped the world we see today.

In the course of the Flood erosion washed away mountains of rock in some places, while miles of mud and sand were piled up in others, especially when large waves and flood waters came from various directions, eroding what just was laid down and piling up new ridges, thus flowing masses of water shaped hard to interprete land features. The image shows the same type of sandstone deposits by composition and detailed examination, one from the Appalachian Mts in Tennessee and the other from the Navajo land in Arizona (right side), deposited hundreds upon hundreds of miles apart, which can only occur by means of continental Flood waters; just like the chalk deposits extent from northern Ethiopia, then they appear on the Island of Ruegen in the Baltic Sea (Germany), and then over at the White Cliffs in England, and pick up again at the eastern sea board of the United States from which they extend for 1600 miles to near the city of Austin in Central Texas. Geologists observe that the earth's crust was thickend in some places, and thinned in others. Like ice cubes in a glass of water sink and bob up to their proper level in the water, some sections of land after the Flood sank, while other sections rose. No doubt the activities occurring in the deep mid-ocean rift valleys had much to do with how the world changed during the Flood.

Frequent earthquakes and super volcanoes rocked the earth after the Flood. After the centuries past, the catastrophies became rarer and smaller. Modern earthquakes and volcanoes, are dim left-overs from a violent period of earth's history. The somewhat warmer ocean, after the Flood, produced perhaps some stormy weather. Higher rain fall after the Flood filled enormous lakes, eroded large canyons, and carved cave systems.

As the animals left the ark, they multiplied after their kind and spread over the earth. Many of them were preserved as fossils. Some were buried in mud and ash. Some were preserved by unique chemical conditions and others were frozen. Truly the present is not the way things were in the past, instead, the Bible is the key to help us understand geological features around the world.

"In the last days scoffers say, `All things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.'" 2.Peter 3:3,4. Not so. The Flood had nothing to do with usual events.

How the Impossible Happened On Schedule

The people first beheld the destruction of the works of their own hands. Their splendid buildings, and the beautiful gardens and groves where they had placed their idols, were destroyed by lightning from heaven, and the ruins were scattered far and wide.[2800] The altars on which human sacrifices had been offered were torn down, and the worshipers were made to tremble at the power of the living God, and to know that it was their corruption and idolatry which had called down their destruction.

As the violence of the storm increased, trees, buildings, rocks, and earth were hurled in every direction.intrusive The terror of man and beast was beyond description. Above the roar of the tempest was heard the wailing of a people that had despised the authority of God. Satan himself, who was compelled to remain in the midst of the warring elements, feared for his own existence. He had delighted to control so powerful a race, and desired them to live to practice their abominations and continue their rebellion against the Ruler of heaven. He now uttered imprecations against God, charging Him with injustice and cruelty. Many of the people, like Satan, blasphemed God, and had they been able, they would have torn Him from the throne of power. Others were frantic with fear, stretching their hands toward the ark and pleading for admittance. But their entreaties were in vain. Conscience was at last aroused to know that there is a God who ruleth in the heavens. They called upon Him earnestly, but His ear was not open to their cry. In that terrible hour they saw that the transgression of God's law had caused their ruin. Yet while, through fear of punishment, they acknowledged their sin, they felt no true contrition, no abhorrence of evil. They would have returned to their defiance of Heaven, had the judgment been removed. So when God's judgments shall fall upon the earth before its deluge by fire, the impenitent will know just where and what their sin is--the despising of His holy law. Yet they will have no more true repentance than did the old-world sinners.

Q: "Why would a loving God allow death and suffering in a world He created?"
A: "That is the wrong question, instead ask, `why would a loving God come into the world He created to suffer and die to pay for my sin?' - It all began when God created a perfect universe, and man was given a choice ... and man chose wrong." - "Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned." Romans 5:12. The answer all should know.

Some in their desperation endeavored to break into the ark, but the firm-made structure withstood their efforts. Some clung to the ark until they were borne away by the surging waters, or their hold was broken by collision with rocks and trees. The massive ark trembled in every fiber as it was beaten by the merciless winds and flung from billow to billow. The cries of the beasts within expressed their fear and pain. But amid the warring elements it continued to ride safely. Angels that excel in strength were commissioned to preserve it.

The beasts, exposed to the tempest, rushed toward man, as though expecting help from him. Some of the people bound their children and themselves upon powerful animals, knowing that these were tenacious of life, and would climb to the highest points to escape the rising waters. Some fastened themselves to lofty trees on the summit of hills or mountains; but the trees were uprooted, and with their burden of living beings were hurled into the seething billows. One spot after another that promised safety was abandoned. As the waters rose higher and higher, the people fled for refuge to the loftiest mountains. Often man and beast would struggle together for a foothold, until both were swept away.

From the highest peaks men looked abroad upon a shoreless ocean.[2900] The solemn warnings of God's servant no longer seemed a subject for ridicule and scorning. How those doomed sinners longed for the opportunities which they had slighted! How they pleaded for one hour's probation, one more privilege of mercy, one call from the lips of Noah! But the sweet voice of mercy was no more to be heard by them. Love, no less than justice, demanded that God's judgments should put a check on sin. The avenging waters swept over the last retreat, and the despisers of God perished in the black depths.

"By the word of God . . . the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: but the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men." 2 Peter 3:5-7. Another storm is coming. The earth will again be swept by the desolating wrath of God, and sin and sinners will be destroyed.

Countdown To Our Civilizations End

The sins that called for vengeance upon the antediluvian world exist today. The fear of God is banished from the hearts of men, and His law is treated with indifference and contempt. The intense worldliness of that generation is equaled by that of the generation now living. Said Christ, "As in the days that were before the Flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and knew not until the Flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be." Matthew 24:38, 39. God did not condemn the antediluvians for eating and drinking; He had given them the fruits of the earth in great abundance to supply their physical wants. Their sin consisted in taking these gifts without gratitude to the Giver, and debasing themselves by indulging appetite without restraint. It was lawful for them to marry. Marriage was in God's order; it was one of the first institutions which He established. He gave special directions concerning this ordinance, clothing it with sanctity and beauty; but these directions were forgotten, and marriage was perverted and made to minister to passion.

A similar condition of things exists now. That which is lawful in itself is carried to excess. Appetite is indulged without restraint. Professed followers of Christ are today eating and drinking with the drunken, while their names stand in honored church records. Intemperance benumbs the moral and spiritual powers and prepares the way for indulgence of the lower passions. Multitudes feel under no moral obligation to curb their sensual desires, and they become the slaves of lust. Men are living for the pleasures of sense; for this world and this life alone. Extravagance pervades all circles of society. Integrity is sacrificed for luxury and display. They that make haste to be rich pervert justice and oppress the poor, and "slaves and souls of men" are still bought and sold. Fraud and bribery and theft stalk unrebuked in high places and in low. The issues of the press teem with records of murder--crimes so cold-blooded and causeless that it seems as though every instinct of humanity were blotted out. And these atrocities have become of so common occurrence that they hardly elicit a comment or awaken surprise. The spirit of anarchy is permeating all nations, and the outbreaks that from time to time excite the horror of the world are but indications of the pent-up fires of passion and lawlessness that, having once escaped control, will fill the earth with woe and desolation. The picture which Inspiration has given of the antediluvian world represents too truly the condition to which modern society is fast hastening. Even now, in the present century, and in professedly Christian lands, there are crimes daily perpetrated as black and terrible as those for which the old-world sinners were destroyed.

Before the Flood God sent Noah to warn the world, that the people might be led to repentance, and thus escape the threatened destruction. As the time of Christ's second appearing draws near, the Lord sends His servants with a warning to the world to prepare for that great event. Multitudes have been living in transgression of God's law, and now He in mercy calls them to obey its sacred precepts. All who will put away their sins by repentance toward God and faith in Christ are offered pardon. But many feel that it requires too great a sacrifice to put away sin. Because their life does not harmonize with the pure principles of God's moral government, they reject His warnings and deny the authority of His law.

Of the vast, some say 7 billion people population of the earth before the Flood, only eight souls believed and obeyed God's word through Noah. For a hundred and twenty years the preacher of righteousness warned the world of the coming destruction, but his message was rejected and despised (Genesis 6:3; 2.Peter 2:5). So it will be now. Before the Lawgiver shall come to punish the disobedient, transgressors are warned to repent, and return to their allegiance; but with the majority these warnings will be in vain. Says the apostle Peter, "There shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, and saying, Where is the promise of His coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning." 2 Peter 3:3, 4. Do we not hear these very words repeated, not merely by the openly ungodly, but by many who occupy the pulpits of our land? "There is no cause for alarm," they cry. "Before Christ shall come, all the world is to be converted, and righteousness is to reign for a thousand years. Peace, peace! all things continue as they were from the beginning. Let none be disturbed by the exciting message of these alarmists." But this doctrine of the millennium does not harmonize with the teachings of Christ and His apostles. Jesus asked the significant question, "When the Son of man cometh, shall He find faith on the earth?" Luke 18:8. And, as we have seen, He declares that the state of the world will be as in the days of Noah. Paul warns us that we may look for wickedness to increase as the end draws near: "The Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils." 1 Timothy 4:1. The apostle says that "in the last days perilous times shall come." 2 Timothy 3:1. And he gives a startling list of sins that will be found among those who have a form of godliness. But remember, before the Flood Noah and his family were in the minority, afterwards they were in the majority.

As the time of their probation was closing, the antediluvians gave themselves up to exciting amusements and festivities. Those who possessed influence and power were bent on keeping the minds of the people engrossed with mirth and pleasure, lest any should be impressed by the last solemn warning. Do we not see the same repeated in our day? While God's servants are giving the message that the end of all things is at hand, the world is absorbed in amusements and pleasure seeking. There is a constant round of excitement that causes indifference to God and prevents the people from being impressed by the truths which alone can save them from the coming destruction.

In Noah's day philosophers declared that it was impossible for the world to be destroyed by water; so now there are men of science who endeavor to show that the world cannot be destroyed by fire -- that this would be inconsistent with the laws of nature. But the God of nature, the Maker and Controller of her laws, can use the works of His hands to serve His own purpose. Today geologists can describe and proof the events unleashed by this worldwide event much better.

When great and wise men had proved to their satisfaction that it was impossible for the world to be destroyed by water, when the fears of the people were quieted, when all regarded Noah's prophecy as a delusion, and looked upon him as a fanatic--then it was that God's time had come. "The fountains of the great deep" were "broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened," and the scoffers were overwhelmed in the waters of the Flood.[2930]

With all their boasted philosophy, men found too late that their wisdom was foolishness, that the Lawgiver is greater than the laws of nature, and that Omnipotence is at no loss for means to accomplish His purposes. "As it was in the days of Noah," "even thus shall it be in the days when the Son of man is revealed." Luke 17:26, 30. "... The wickedness of men reached unto heaven, and God sent Noah with a warning that he would destroy the world with a flood of water; but they had so long given themselves up to selfish and demoralizing practices, glorifying themselves, that they had put God and his claims and his honor out of sight and mind. They lived without God and without hope in the world. They mocked at Noah's message, but their unbelief did not prevent him from proclaiming God's words to them. They cared for none of these things; but their indifference and unbelief did not hinder the event that had been foretold. The rain descended in floods, and swept the earth clean of their moral pollution. "Even thus shall it be in the day when the son of man is revealed." {YI, July 19, 1894 par. 12} "The day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up." 2 Peter 3:10. When the reasoning of philosophy has banished the fear of God's judgments; when religious teachers are pointing forward to long ages of peace and prosperity, and the world are absorbed in their rounds of business and pleasure, planting and building, feasting and merrymaking, rejecting God's warnings and mocking His messengers--then it is that sudden destruction cometh upon them, and they shall not escape. 1 Thessalonians 5:3. [EGW, Patriarchs and Prophets, Chapter 7; It is remarkable how the author described the appearance of the ark about a hundred years ago, especially since in her days they did not yet have freighters or container ships as we do today. In her days ships still had the older style sailboat shape. To see more click Ch. 11, 50, 51, 59, 73.]

Did the Great, Worldwide Flood Really Happen?

If you go to one of the great museums in the world, many have a section on the origin of life and man on earth. While they insist that life evolved slowly over millions of years from some primitive cell - there is no such thing as a primitive cell as long as you have the right instruments to investigate it - there is much evidence that special Creation is true.

Since we know that the first book of the Bible, the book of Genesis, is the oldest book the world has, it contains the Creation account, we can investigate the Bible to find out what it says, historically speaking, about creatures and things pertaining to the origin of the earth and life in its various forms.

Since many of us took life science classes, when we take out our old text books, we know that they don't look like the new ones at all. They publish every year a new version in many places. Not so the Bible, the Bible stays the same except man's transliterations may try to introduce changes not ordained by God who forbids to add and do away from the text of the book of Revelation, which is based on all the Bible, Rev. 22:19.

We know already that Noah built the ark to ensure that the various types of God's creatures would survive the Flood. After the Flood man and God's creatures multiplied again rapidly and they decided to build a tall tower at Babel to survive if another such flood would ever happen again.

As people spread out around the face of the earth, and we know they could walk fast because many were quite tall people, the after effects of the Flood included metereological phenomena relating to temperature and weather changes and variations which never occurred before the Flood. So, in order to protect themselves from the weather related changes, they frequently sought shelter in caves where ever they could find them. That is how cave art originated, which helps us understand that some of the species they illustrated on its walls, lived then, but not anymore today - since we find strange looking creatures, etc., now only as bones or cave art.

As these discoveries were made starting about 1841, new names were invented for them; names like dinosaurus, the great lizzards, mammoths, etc.

The Bible, being the oldest book, contains references to creatures which sound like they refer to dinosaur, but in the Bible they are called dragon or leviathan.

A little searching reveals that just about around the whole world existed dragon stories among the old, original populations.

We can find dragons also on flags, like the flags of China, Scotland and Wales, since way back from the Middle Ages.

In fact stories of a Noah like event were also discovered among many old populations around the world, in Fidji, Hawaii, among the Eskimos, the Babylonians, they all had stories which sound like Genesis 1 through 11.

Why are these stories found all around the world? Because they are all descendants of Noah.

For the same reason we have these dragon stories all over the world, because there was a memory or experience among these populations of something real.

The word for dragon in the Hebrew is `tanniyn' and if you replace it with dinosaur it fits quite nicely in most instances.

  1. "Their wine is the poison of dragons ..." Deut. 32:33;
  2. "Job continued his parable . . . I am a brother to dragons (Hebrew: "tanniyn")..." Job 29:1; 30:29.
  3. "And I went out by night by the gate of the valley, even before the dragon well, and to the dung port." Nehemiah 2:13.
  4. "... thou hast sore broken us in the place of dragons ..." Ps. 44:19.
  5. "thou breakest the heads of the dragons in the waters." Ps. 74:13.
  6. "the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet." Ps. 91:13.
  7. "the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their desolate houses, and dragons in [their] pleasant places." Isa. 13:22.
  8. "In that day the Lord with his sore and great sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan the crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea." Isa. 27:1.
  9. "... the land shall become burning pitch ... but the cormorant and theOld Italien dino art bittern shall posses it; the owl also and the raven shall dwell in it . . . and it shall be an inhabitation of dragons, and a court of owls." Isa. 34:9, 11, 13.
  10. "... the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the habitation of dragons, where each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes." Isa. 35:7.
  11. "The beasts of the field shall honour me, the dragons and the owls: because give waters in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert ..." Isa. 43:20.
  12. "Art thou not that has cut Rahab, and wounded the dragon?" Isa. 51:9.
  13. "... I will make Jerusalem heaps, and a dan of dragons." Jer. 9:11.
  14. "Behold the noise of the bruit is come . . . to make the cities of Judah desolate and a den of dragons." Jer. 10:22.
  15. "The wild asses did stand in the high places, they snuffed up the wind like dragons." Jer. 14:6.
  16. "And Hazor shall be a dwelling for dragons." Jer. 49:33.
  17. "Nebukadnezzar ... has swallowed me up like a dragon. . . . And Babylon shall become heaps, a dwellingplace for dragons." Jer. 51:34,37.
  18. "... Thus says the Lord God; Behold I am against thee, Pharaoh king of Egypt, the great dragon that lieth in the midst of the rivers." Ezekiel 29:3.
  19. ". . . I will make a wailing like the dragons." Micah 1:8.

But, today we know what people say about leviathan in Job 41:1, that it is a myth. Such an animal is just folklore, they say. Well look at Job 38:39-41, there we have lions and ravens - all real animals - but when we get to Job 41:1, they say all of a sudden, that scripture is a myth. That makes no sense at all.

The dragon mentioned in Isaiah is in or by the water, why then could it not be a `Pleisiosaur,' or the `flying dragon' of Isa. 27:1; 30:6, why could it not be a Pterodactyl?

We also ought to remember that most dinosaur were in average the size of a sheep and many were the size of chicken. In those days they may have eaten, Kentucky-fried dinos.' What did those ferocious looking dinosaurs with their sharp teeth, what did they eat?

Anything they wanted? No. Not really. The Bible tells us what, they all ate fruits, green herbs or plants, Genesis 1:29-30.

The Bible says that death, pain, suffering, despair, killing, disease, thorns, struggle, suffering and extinction are all consequences of sin.

So we know that, just because an animal has sharp teeth does not mean it is a meat eater, it just means it has sharp teeth.

Today we know that there are many plant foods and vegetables which require sharp teeth. You can go to a zoo and see that pandas and bears have sharp teeth. These animals can eat meat but they primarily eat plant food.

Other such animals are monkeys from South America, marine iguanas, which also have sharp claws.

So what happened?

When Adam took the fruit in effect he really said, `We want a world without God.' His sin effected all creation, animate and inanimate.

The Fossil Record

Then there is the fossil record as for example a clubmoss, which today grows only a foot and a half tall, long ago it grew 120 feet tall. Such a moss was found where the roots in all their fine structures were caught in one rock layer, and the stem extended into a separate rock layer above, and this rock formation extends from central Texas, 1600 miles to the east coast of the United States, then it appears again in the white chalk cliffs of Dover, England, and then again in northern Ethiopia - all the same type of two rock layers extending from Texas to Africa.

About other places, like in the Utah Dinosaur Park, it was written, "Judging from the concentration of bones in various pits, there were 30 million fossil fragments in that area. At a conservative estimate, we had discovered the tomb of 10,000 dinosaurs. ... there was a flood. This was no ordinary spring flood from one of the streams in the area, but a catastrophic inundation. . . . That's our best explanation. It seems to make the most sense, and on the basis of it we believe that this was a living, breathing group of dinosaurs destroyed in one catastrophic moment." [John R. Homer, `Digging Dinosaurs', 1988, p. 731.]

On the subject of the ark it was said, "If the ark is ever discovered, it would be the greatest archaeological find in human history, the greatest event since the resurrection of Christ, and finding the ark would alter all the currents of scientific thought." [Melville B. Grosvenor, one time editor of `National Geographic', quoted by John Morris, `The Ark of Ararat of Noah', San Diego CLP Publication 1976.]

While it is true, that it might alter all the currents of scientific thought, it is also true that most scientists would fight it with all they got, for they don't want God's word to be true at all, - - under no circumstances.

After the Great Flood

Things changed, now creatures lived of other creatures. Death was everywhere.

Noah was told to build an ark which was 515 feet long (based on the Egyptian 300 foot royal cubits), 86 feet wide and 51 1/2 feet tall.

So, how many elephants were on the ark? (2) How many dog kinds? (2) How many goats? (7)

How did Noah get those big dinos into the ark? Like T.rex? Well, the egg of it is the size of a football.

No doubt, the ark held young adult creatures. God did not plan to repopulate with old animals.

There are many names which belong to the Ceratopsia kind, T. rex kind, etc.

There could have been only 50 or less kinds of dinosaur necessary to increase into the later populations.

How did the animals spread over the earth after the Flood?

Just like the animals entered the ark by the power of God - for Noah had nothing to do with it - so they left the ark and so they were distributed again over the post-Flood world.

Gulf of Mexico Buried Cypress Forest Discovered

CBSNews.com reported on July 9, 2013, "Primeval forest and kept quiet, was discovered in 2005 off the coast of Alabama. Buried more than 60 feet below the surface, the perfectly preserved forest is estimated to be 50-80,000 years old."

According to the news release, it appears that they are Cypress tree remains. On a sample they counted 400 rings but expect some 1500 on a full stump.

Well, we would suggest, that this may well be a forest which sank and flooded easily some 4300 years ago at the Flood of Noah in 2303 BC or some additional upheaval in later years. Tree rings form following sufficient moisture to cause them. Post flood weather Mt Whitneyled to the Ice Age in some parts in the world, because of increased precipitation. Thus more than one tree ring per year may form under such conditions. The diameter mentioned (6-8 feet) is fairly large for Cypress trees, indicating favorable (pre-Flood?) climate when they first grew. We can estimate from what was or rather what is left of icefields on high mountains, like Mt. Kilimansharo in Zentral Africa (19567 feet; 5963 meters). In the 1950's and before there still was glacial ice, as far as I know today there is very little or none (see images). - Compare that to California's Mt. Whitney, the mainland US tallest mountain in the Sierra Nevada mountains along old highway 395, the picture which I took there a few years back.

Geological Evidences for the Flood

  1. Random Order of Fossils - The sediments do not exhibit strong evidence of a record of Evolution with simple animals at the bottom, progressing type by type up to more and more complex animals. The order is often random or completely upside down or out of order for Evolution. But, this would be expected in a global flood catastrophe.

  2. Massive Sedimentation - The global existence of massive amounts of sediment. Most of Earth's crust is covered with layer upon layer of sediment and evidence of strong sorting action produced by moving water. Frequently the sediment bears strong evidence of having been laid under flood conditions. Where can one find dolomite, siliceous iron, etc. forming in large quantity today?

  3. Dolomite Stone Beds - The global existence of massive amounts of dolomitestone. Beds are sometimes thousands of feet thick. Dolomitestone is not forming today. [Stuart E. Nevins, "Stratigraphic Evidence of the Flood," in Donald W. Patten, editor, Symposium on Creation III.] It can be found in Carboniferous Limestone of England and Wales and the Sailmhor Dolomite of Scotland, in the Bighorn Dolomite of Wyoming, in the western Alps, in the Piedmont in Italy and in the Zechstein Basin in Germany.

  4. Chert Beds - The global existence of large amounts of chert. Beds are up to 50 feet thick (or more). No chert is forming today. [Stuart E. Nevins, "Stratigraphic Evidence of the Flood," in Donald W. Patten, editor, `Symposium of Creation III (Grand Rapids, Michigan, Baker Book House, 1971, p. 48-49.)

  5. Conglomerate - The global existence of massive amounts of conglomerate rock indicating deposition under flood conditions over extremely wide areas with very strong currents. [Conglomerate consists of cemented gravel, sand and boulders.) Stuart E. Nevins, `Stratigraphic Evidence of the Flood", in Donald W. Patten. editor, Symposium on Creation III, Grand Rapids, Michigan: Baker Book House, 1977a p. 53-343.

  6. Fluid Dynamics Experiments - have yielded evidence for how turbulence, during a global flood, might naturally produce a layering effect in the sediments. Layers of clay, sand, lime, organic material, and the like, could naturally tend to be piled on top of one another in repeated patterns in very short periods. [Marilyn E. Clark and H.D. Vons(?), "Computer Simulation of Large-Scale Wave Motions Associated with the Genesis Flood." Creation Research Society Quartely, Vol. 17, No. 1 (CPO Box 14016, Terre Haute, Indiana 47803, June 1950. pp. 28-40. H.D. Vons, M.E. Clark, et.al., "Investigation of a Global Flood Using a Large Circular Flame" (2020 Zappke Drive, Urbana, Il. 62801, The Genesis Research laboratory, 1980-1.

  7. Massive Volcanism - The existence of thousands of cubic miles of volcanic and granitic rock types, as would be expected during a global catastrophic geological upheaval.

  8. Warm Global Climate - evidence of a worldwide climate that was more uniformly warm before the Flood. No evidence of frozen poles.

  9. Evidence of Significant Past Global Temperature Changes - This would be an expected result of a worldwide catastrophe involving massive volcanic releases into the atmosphere, worldwide flooding and, later, great evaporation from the continents.

  10. Corrolation of Death Dates by Radiocarbon - When the Carbon-14 dating method is "correctly" calibrated, and 25-thousand dates are graphed, the result is not fighting against Creation.

  11. Evidence or Rapid Deposition in the Internal Characteristics of Strata Sequences - "The widespread physical similarity in the order of strata in each sequence indicates that virtually identical conditions were prevelant laterally over broad areas. Sandstones and conglomerates, which form the basal and best preserved parts of many sequences indicate that widespread flood conditions once prevailed. - Sequences are often thousands of feet in thickness. ... with the coarsest material at the base progressively decreasing in coarseness toward the top." [Stuart E. Nevins, "Stratigraphic Evidence of the Flood," in Donald W. Patton, editor, Synposium on Creation III (Grand Rapids, Michigan, Baker Book House, 1971), p. 60-62 (quote is from pp. 60-61.)

  12. Mountains Uplifted After Most Sedimentation - Many mountain ranges can be shown to have been uplifted after nearly all of the stratigraphics record was deposited." [Ibid. p. 64.]

  13. "Underfit" Streams and Rivers - Evidence that most natural drainage systems globally at one time drained off far larger amounts of water than today.

  14. Massive Rapid Erosion - evidenced at many locations worldwide, including the Grand Canyon. Also, new evidence of rapid erosion based on widespread "sequence-bounding discontinuities." Ibid. p. 60-62.

  15. Existence of Great "Plungepools" (created as torrents of floodwater transported much mud as it plunged off the continents.) - (Reginald Daly, `Earth's Most Challenging Mysteries' Vancouver, Washington, The Craig Press, 1972, pp. 296-311)

  16. Flood Legends throughout the world; some larger religious institutions fight Creationism, because their leaders proscribe to it, and so they cannot speak their mind as free, thinking men and women, so they lough about short agers, but in these matters it does not depend on who gets the most ears inclining in their direction, but plain truth, for they have made up their mind before all the evidence is in and properly examined.

Teaching Bible Stories by Using Art

We should not use pictures of Bible stories, and particularly of the ark and make them look like a fairy tale.


Because kids know that a funny looking ark, `No way could all the animals fit on it and it would tip over at the first wave.'

That is how we create unbelief in childrens minds at a young age. The real ark was a massive ship. Did it have a laundromat (offline)?

We also should remember this, Did you know that Noah's ark is a picture of salvation, a picture of Jesus Christ?

The NT says, that Noah was a preacher of righteousness, and Noah stood for seven days by that open door crying out loudly, `Come through the doorway to be saved. - There is a flood coming and you still can come through the doorway to be saved.'

But people did not believe it. They could not imagine anything like that could ever happen. Up to that time it had never rained even. The earth was wetted by dew in the morning.

When the door was finally shut, probation and salvation was over and all opportunities were gone, "I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture." John 10:9.

Jesus also said, "He that enters not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbs up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber." John 9:1.

Jesus Christ is the door to the fold of God. Through this door all His children, from the earliest times, have found entrance. In Jesus, as shown in types, as shadowed in symbols, as manifested in the revelation of the prophets, as unveiled in the lessons given to His disciples, and in the miracles wrought for the sons of men, they have beheld "the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world" (John 1:29), and through Him they are brought within the fold of His grace. Many have come presenting other objects for the faith of the world; ceremonies and systems have been devised by which men hope to receive justification and peace with God, and thus find entrance to His fold. But the only door is Christ, and all who have interposed something to take the place of Christ, all who have tried to enter the fold in some other way, are thieves and robbers.{DA 477.3}

The Pharisees had not entered by the door. They had climbed into the fold by another way than Christ, and they were not fulfilling the work of the true shepherd. The priests and rulers, the scribes and Pharisees, destroyed the living pastures, and defiled the wellsprings of the water of life. Faithfully do the words of inspiration describe those false shepherds: "The diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye healed that which was sick, neither have ye bound up that which was broken, neither have ye brought again that which was driven away; . . . but with force and with cruelty have ye ruled them." Ezekiel 34:4. {DA 478.1}

As the shepherd goes before his sheep, himself first encountering the perils of the way, so does Jesus with His people. "When He putteth forth His own sheep, He goeth before them." The way to heaven is consecrated by the Saviour's footprints. The path may be steep and rugged, but Jesus has traveled that way; His feet have pressed down the cruel thorns, to make the pathway easier for us. Every burden that we are called to bear He Himself has borne. {DA 480.4}

Therefore, we know the Bible is true about what it teaches. The Bible teaches that soon there will be another judgment - not by water this time but by fire.

Just as surely as God sent the judgment of the Flood, that surely there will be a final judgment.

Question? How can one escape the final judgment to come?

We cannot escape the judgment, but we can be faithful to God in everything and be judged worthy to receive eternal life.

Therefore, Noah's Ark is a picture of Jesus. Do not make it look like a fairy tale.

That way the children want to be inside the ark and be saved and not outside of it and be lost. What happened to those outside the ark? - They all died and were gone.

Well the rain came, big tidal waves and covered them all with mud and turned them into fossils. What did we end up with? We ended up with billions of dead things buried in rock layers, laid down by water, all over the earth. Billions of dead things buried in rock layers, laid down by water, all over the earth.

How many survived Noah's flood? Only 8 people survived because all the rest would not believe.

How about today, how many believe today? Not many believe. That is why most people will not be saved, unless they accept Christ as their Savior.

Why do we have that situation in the world?

Because we put the word of man above the Word of God, and unbelief reigns supreme for that reason.

Conclusion: You can't have death before sin, so you can't have fossils before the flood - for the fossil record is the graveyard of the flood - it is crying out to the world, a judgment is coming, God will judge the wickedness of the world. You need to walk through the doorway to be saved - that is the message of the fossil record. [See partially Answers in Genesis]

Notes & References

[005] Genesis 7:7 states that Noah entered into the ark and seven days later, on the 8th day, the Flood started but verse 13 states that "on the very day [when the rain began] Noah ... entered the ark" meaning apparently that filling it with all its passengers occurred over a period of seven days. However, sometimes Hebrew authors, explain something in more detail and then go back again to the start of an event and continue from there. So, it may not be all that clear that Noah was not in the ark for those seven days, the period of time of the `Noah family probation'.

[0010] The ethical conditions among the pre-Flood population is spoken of in Hebrew like this: "Ha Nephilim ha yaw b ara yamim /// haham wagam acharod kan ashur yobaw bano halhim al-balvahe harem volrev lahim hemhe hegbrim ashur mainlim anshur hashim." See the professional and informative Tas Walker's website.
These 7 stages are found in Genesis itself:
(1) inundatory "windows of the heavens were opened and the rain was upon the earth 40 days and nights" (Gen. 7:11b,12);
(a) eruptive "the same day were all the fountains of the great deep were broken up" (Gen. 7:11);
(b) ascending "the waters increased" (Gen. 7:17);
(c) zenithic "the flood was 40 days upon the earth ... and the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth and all the high hills ... were covered 15 cubits upward ... and the mountains were covered" (Gen. 7:17,19); - That all the mountain peaks were covered with water, may mean the mountains before the Flood, before the earth's crust broke up and tectonic movements produced the mountains we see today. That way the water was not so deep as to cover the Himalayas, Andes and the Rocky Mountains.
(2) recessive "the fountains of the deep and the windows of heaven were stopped ... and the waters returned from off the earth continually" (Gen. 8:2,3);
(a) abative "and after the end of the 150 days the waters were abated" (Gen. 8:3);
(b) dispersive "and the waters decreased continually until the 10th month ...the tops of the mountains were seen" (Gen. 8:5).

[0030] Water Power & Creation: Let us talk about water for a moment. Water, H2O consists of 2 atoms of Hydrogen and one atom of Oxygen, both of which are gases. Looking at just one molecule of H2O, we know a little more how unique water really is. It has a negative and a positive pole, it has a small electrical charge and a tiny electromagnetic (e-magnetic) field. It operates in its own dimension since it is self-contained with its own e-magnetic field -- it operates in random charge and tendency. It has solid, gaseous and liquid forms. So is it also possible to combine these three forms of water and you get monomer [H2O], dimer [H2O2] and trimer [H6O3] composites of water. Since the earth was covered with water which is rich in energy, those combined forces are important. Add on top of that the Bible's assertion that "the Spirit of God moved upon the water." Because of that energy, we would expect the watery earth to have a spherical shape. That shape would also override the natural tendency of the water molecules to operate in a random tendency. It would instead align those water molecules. The network of a crystalline lattice structure of clear and opaque areas of supercooled, pressurized hydrogen in it superconductive, fiberoptic, metallic form in the firmament around the earth. Because there is independent energy added, superintending over these elements, the entire spherical body takes on an e-magnetic field commensurate with the sum-total of all the individual e-magnetic fields of the composite atoms. - So, we say, by the Spirit of God hovering or brooding over that sphere of water (the entire earth), we now have an e-magnetic field generated around the entire body of the earth. Once the Spirit of God concluded that activity the normal random activity of the water molecules would again go back to random tendency, yet the e-magnetic field would keep the sphere in shape and keep the e-magnetic field above it in place. Besides that, something else would happen. When the water molecules go back to their natural random tendencies, that means, that normal electrolysis would occur. There would be some supercharged water molecules, by the trillions, in the area of the poles, which would then continue along the lines of the e-magnetic field from pole to pole, and strengthen the e-magnetic energy flowing therein. In other words, there would be supercharged water in the e-magnetic field lines supervised by the sphere's e-magnetic field. In addition to that, normal electrolysis would occur and brake some of the water molecules apart so that there would be free hydrogen and free oxygen available. More recent physical research also found that activity of energy, which is in motion around the planet's spherical body (that is any body, stelar, planets - in the universe), new hydrogen atoms are generated. So it was found that around the earth, matching the solar winds, there is an aura of hydrogen. That is interpreted to mean, that if you have any e-magnetic activity there is a tendency in the physical universe to produce free hydrogen atoms. [Jefery Lansky, `CU Researchers Discover (Hydrogen) Wall Around (the earth and) Solar System,' Joint Institutes for Laboratory Astrophysics, Daily Camera, Boulder, Colorado, January 17, 1995.] That is very important. Having said the above we can learn even more:
The crystalline firmament created on day #2, and appreciated on day #3 of creation, has some very special characteristics. It was crystalline, it was hydrogen bonded into a crystal lattice that is super conductive in nature, fiber-optic, because scientific research shows, that if you maintain an energy field in a transparent crystal, you actually have a fiber-optic transfer so that the night is twilight rather than midnight blackness. That means that the pre-Flood plants in their biological rhythm, would not have had a total darkness but in their red shine would have a gentle bathing of light. This crystalline firmament was destroyed when the heated fountains of the deep broke through the crust of the earth, sending water some 70 miles into the air, thus destroying the pre-Flood canopy and initiating the by God perfectly tuned, inner earth nuclear reactor (for we have radioactive elements) which led to the water heating, crust breaking up and the land mass, the continents shifting, to say it in a few words. [See presentation on sound and light] - What we learned is about the power of God and how He has instilled His power in water. Only in these very days did men discover this power in a single water molecule which they currently explore because they now think that water molecules can be used as/in memory chips - albeit, they will no doubt subvert it once more for no good reasons.

[50] Earlier we included the following lines, however, studying the historical data we found they can be understood within the biblical data themselves without resorting to outside sources. That chronology can be seen for the Pre-Flood period and the Post Flood to Exodus Period.
The Flood in the days of Noah began in the Jewish 2nd month, May/Iyyar 2303 BC, on the 17th day and Noah and his family did not set foot on the post Flood earth until on the 27th day of the 2nd month, May 2302 BC, just a year and 10 days later God told Noah to walk out of the ark.

[0400] The renowned geologist Dr. Andrew Snelling, one of my favorite, respected geologists, says this about the intrusive nature of Mt. Ararat (as quoted by Ken Ham), that Mt. Ararat was formed as a result of a volcano: "We can't be sure of whether there was already a mountain prior to the volcanic eruptions, but from all our knowledge of volcanoes and of the eruptions that have been witnessed, it would have to be concluded that it is likely there were no mountains or hills there previously. Indications are that the lavas making up the Mt. Ararat volcano today are of considerable thickness, much higher and thicker than the Ark itself. This would mean that should the Ark have landed at the place currently known as Mt. Ararat, on Day 150 of the Flood (Gen. 7:24), it would eventually have been buried under thousands of feet of hot burning lavas." Dr. Snelling also stated that much more geological research still needs to be done in this area. [`AnswersUpdate', front page, Volume 17, Issue 7, July 2010.]
CIAS: Yes, that is why the ark could not be on those volcanoes themselves, it must be searched for in the surrounding region just like Genesis 8:4 says. It also explains why the vessels identifiable wood itself is not present, for heat probably played a great initial part in its quick and thorough decay leaving only the general form of it visible.

[0500] According to Young's Concordance, "Armenia, according to tradition, was settled by Haik, son of Togarnah, and grandson of Japhet (Gen. 10:3); it is noticed in Scripture under the names Togarnath and Ararat. The country, afterwards divided into Lesser and Greater Armenia, was frequently invaded by the Assyrians, the Babylonians, the Medes and Persians and for many years remained in subjection to one or other of these empires. The accounts given by Greek and Roman writers are at variance with those of the Armenian historians. M. ST. Martin has investigated the subject with diligence, and upon his work the following chronological table is based:
In BC 2107, Haik, fleeing from Belus king of Assyria, settles in Armenia, and becomes its first ruler;
1827: accession of Aram, who carries his arms into Asia Minor and founds Mazaca , i.e. Cęsareia of Cappadocia.
1725: Armenia becomes subject to Assyria.
743: Baroļr renders it independent.
565: accession of Tigranes, who restores it to its ancient position.
323: on the death of Alexander it falls under the sway of Greek governors.
317: under Ardoates it throws off the Grecian yoke.
149: Valarsaces or Wagharshag I., founds the dynasty of the Arsacidę.
34: Anthony leads its sovereign captive to Alexandria.
30: on the death of Anthony, Artaxes expels the Romans, and is crowned king.
In AD 16: Vonones, king of the Parthians, seeks shelter in Armenia, and is made king.
18: Germanicus makes Zeno king under the name of Artaxias.
62: Tiridates king, by order of Nero.
115: invaded and conquered by Trajan.
232: subjected by Ardashir, king of Persia.
276: Tiridates is converted to Christianity by Gregory (not a pope. Caius was Pope then).
321: Construction of the Cathedral of Echmiadzin (Jeriwan/Eriwan today? near Mt. Ararat), the religious capital of the Russian Armenian Church in Armenia, where they kept the Sabbath for a considerable period of time.
387: Armenia, whose borders shifted much over time, divided between the Romans and the Persians.
428: end of the kingdom of the Arsacidę. (2.Kings 19:37; Isaiah 37, 38.)

[1000] While Ron Wyatt was not a trained archaeologist and may have presented some things not quite correct or skillfully to support his views, we allow him some mistakes but think his main discovery is not significantly enough discredited by it. After all, if trained archaeologists can make mistakes, do we from then on doubt everything they found? What if they made big chronological errors without `seeing' their error, what then? At any rate our question is, `How can scientists ignore the abundant evidence on earth, yet believe so much about so little on Mars?'

[1100] Reports of additional [at least 2] boat like shapes of smaller sizes near the `ark' site lead some to dismiss the whole area as anything but natural formations. While we know of only one ark and there probably was only one ark, we may want to consider that smaller vessels may have been constructed some time after the flood by the survivors for transportation and before mud flows did their work. [No, I was not able to check if these `boat' like features are photoshop enhancements.]

[1500] According to a recent (2005) visitor to the site, his group thought the soil around the ark was not of (recent) igneous/lava origin but regular mud from occasional flooding. We are not sure how qualified this observation is but would add that the process of decay in that area would be quite rapid and thorough and we should not expect to find the timbers themselves but only the minerals which replaced them. That would mean, someone taking a soil sample for analysis, would need to have an adequate number of well chosen samples for comparison purposes.

[2500] Cain chose to ignore God's instructions on how to sacrifice unto the Lord. Choosing his own way, Cain rebelled against God. Having slighted God's instructions, it was a shorter route to disobey other laws of God - he murdered his own brother. Breaking the 6th commandment, he also coveted, stole from God and he broke the Sabbath, etc. He broke all of God's laws at once, James 2:10. This principle was in place forever. God then put a mark on Cain's forhead, Gen. 4:15. He had declared himself as operating under the rules of the snake, under Satan. He lived now only by his own wits and imaginations. The Spirit of God was surplanted in his heart by the spirit which always tends to evil, cause misery and problems. His merchandise was now only second hand, it consisted only of works. A lost person, as denizen of this world, has nothing other laid out ahead than buying and selling. Such a person's interests revolve around what he can get of the presence of sin, since for certain he will exist only for a season, Hebr. 11:25. "His time is short," like the devils time is short, Rev. 12:12. Cain's mark on his forehead was based on the truth that he went after rulers other than God. His mind was merely horizontally oriented. He had chosen to exalt self and practice opposition to the divine influence. He would be lost.

[2508] Consider this recent discovery in Peru: Giant See Monster Remains Discovered in the Peruvian Desert Confirms the Flood Account of the Time of Noah.

CNN July 1, 2010: - Researchers scanning the Peruvian desert for whale fossils have stumbled upon the remains of a "sea monster" three times the size of a modern day killer whale.
The teeth of "Leviathan Melvillei" were so large it was initially assumed they were elephant tusks.
"There were no elephants in South America before 3 million years ago, and the specimens found have an age of 12 to 15 million years, so that was impossible," said Professor Jelle Reumer, one of the team of scientists who found the fossil in the Pisco-Ica desert in coastal Peru.
They had been searching for other types of whale fossils in a remote area some 300 kilometers south of Lima. "The place where we found it was 20 kilometers from the nearest village," said Reumer, who is also director of Natural History Museum in Rotterdam.
Strong winds had shifted sand to expose a three-meter long fossilized skull. The skull of today's blue whale, still the largest animal ever known to have existed, is around six meters long.
The fossilized remains found in Peru include a jaw bone and several teeth, each around 12 centimeters in diameter and up to 36 centimeters in length.
The size of its teeth indicate that the mammal fed on large prey, possibly baleen whales which were plentiful at the time of the Leviathan's existence around 12 million to 13 million years ago, in the middle of the Miocene Age, Reumer said.
It is not known why they became extinct. Reumer said it could have been due to "climatic deterioration."
"After the Miocene it became relatively much colder. At the same time the baleen whales became bigger probably to escape from predation from these animals, just the way elephants escaped predation by becoming bigger so they were not eaten by lions any more," he said. Baleen whales now grow to 30 meters in length. Back then, they were much smaller, around six to ten meters long.
The `behemoth' (Job 40), could best explain the dinosaurs.
Reumer says the Leviathan could be best compared to a modern killer whale. Killer whales feast on sea lions, seals, fish, birds and sometimes other whales.
Modern sperm whales have a completely different method of feeding; they suck in squid at depths of a kilometer or more and only have relatively small teeth on their lower jaw.
The whale was named after the original Hebrew word for a mythical sea monster -- Livyatan -- and Herman Melville, the author of the novel Moby Dick.
The remains of the Leviathan Melvillei will remain in Peru at the Museo de Historia Natural in Lima. Casts of the three largest teeth are on display at the Natural History Museum Rotterdam.
Reumer says there is very little chance another will be found. "It's a top predator so there were very few specimens living at any period of time. The chance that they are fossilized is very small and the chance that you find them is even smaller," he said.

[2510] October 8, 2009, CNN/WND reported that 20 or more giant dinosaur footprints were found high in the French Jura mountains where they border on Switzerland. Visitors went for years on the nature foot path through the grassy and soily area without noticing. It takes a trained eye to realize that these almost 1.5 meter diameter prints are footprints, hardened like in a cast, surviving since post Flood times. Of course the officials date them to be some 150 million years old because their geology text book assigns those ages to the area. Those books need radical revision. Man finds the right things, but then misinterprets all the evidence. The fossil record is the testimony, the graveyard, to the Great Flood and its aftermath.
October 2009: Reports surfaced that the remains of a giant sea Plesiosaurus are being excavated in the so-called Jurassic layer on the English coast. Its crocodile like head is supposed to measure some 8 feet, the largest skull found so far. Reports similar to this are not rare. The current spate of strong earthquakes in Chile are a reminder that these mountains are the result of geologically speaking, fairly recent continental plate tectonics, i.e. within the last few thousand years.

[2515] As an explanation on Genesis 6:1-4 consider this. When it says the sons of God came unto the daughters of man, that means the sons of God fearing men became unfaithful to God and started to marry the women of the descendants of Cain. In other words, the way this truth is phrased in Genesis is a witness to the antiquity of the `Toledoth' family histories which comprise the Book of Genesis. In those far back ages, people spoke about their relationship with the Lord a bit different than we do today. That should surprise no one and we can know that the tablet of Noah's family tree just wanted to say how it occurred that people went from faithful to unfaithful the years before the Flood. They were giants, because they were taller, stronger and lived longer in those centuries after Creation.

[2580] Instead of trusting the word of God, men began to trust in their own presuppositions. Converts to Darwinism look at the evidence declaring millions of years as cause, presupposing a little water shaping the evidence over much time. Creationist scientists, looking at the same evidence, see much water causing the evidence over a short time frame. But evolutionists caught the Christians off guard as they solidified their presence in academia, in the thinking of society, and politics. Why were they caught off guard? The answer is vexing and in itself hard to swallow for the Christians for it has to do with rejecting the Creator Himself. How? When man rejects God's memorial of Creation, he rejects God Himself. Instead of keeping God's holy day, man chose Baal, a pagan holy day - they keep the first day of the week. Thus, both, evolutionists and Christians, deep down in reality, both oppose Creation. While they claim God speaks through His word, they seem to say, God mumbled and we have to interpret His Word as we want it to sound, thus they keep misunderstanding Him on a number of critical issues./ Despite these shortfalls, God is using these half hearted Christians to defend His Word, for those who do keep His commandments have also fallen short and applied their finite minds to defend the long agers instead of God's model of some 6000 short years. So. Satan has been working busily among all groups and modes of thinking to overthrow the truth of Creation, the eternal claim of God's law as it reflects God's character and what sin is and has done.

[2585] Amazing as it may seem, while we have today a growing and eloquent group of people defending the literal six days of creation, they, at the same time, deny the God who did this creating by setting aside His memorial to that fact. That is how successful Satan's deceptions are among unbelievers as well as supposed believers. But they are tied to their systems of beliefs by strings apparently stronger than the gospel call to come back to all the Bible and not only favorite portions and denominational views.

[2586] In some locations on earth entire societies are based on polygamy. It is not difficult to see that this way of life must have important effects on individuals, families, villages, cities, education, government and world outlook. In Africa, polygamy is a fact of life. Islam encourages the custom, stipulating that all wives be treated fairly and receive the same benefits. However, polygamous families develop much higher levels of competition and rivalry than is usually found in monogamous families. Tension often leads family members to form alliances among themselves and seek the help of charms, talismans and shamans. The practice seems to reinforce animistic activities in some areas. Wherever polygamy is a large part of the societal structure, it introduces a multitude of other personal, interpersonal and societal challenges. There is much discord and jealousy, perpetual pain, stunting of personal development and suspicion among the people. Under such conditions no true peace is possible. - How can the gospel help? The gospel power is to eliminate and destroy all that denigrates humanity, because it transforms a person's thinking and way of life so God's way of thinking become the impulse of the heart. That is why there is so much growing hostility to true Christian principles today. All those who desire God's way of life, stand in the front of these forces which try to rid the world of Bible principles. To succeed many of these must grow daring and willing to choose Christ rather than a happy life in the here and now.

[2587] Did you know that the remedy for racism is actually very simple? If you and others just accepted the history of the Bible and built your thinking on all of God's Word, the racism would virtually disappear! However, because we live in a world where the majority of people reject the Bible, the sin of racism is not going to be overcome. - Christians everywhere should be shouting from the rooftops that the Bible teaches that all people are of "one blood" (Acts 17). There is only one "race" of people; there are not different races. - Today's various people groups arose as a result of God giving different languages at the time of the Tower of Babel, over 4,000 years ago. This intervention would have led to different people going in different directions, thus developing into people groups. - Genesis teaches us that all people have a sin problem (Genesis 3). We need to trust Jesus Christ and conform our thinking to His teachings. If everyone did, there would be no racism.
Q: "Why would a loving God allow death and suffering in a world He created?"
A: "That is the wrong question, instead ask, `why would a loving God come into the world He created to suffer and die to pay for my sin?' - It all began when God created a perfect universe, and man was given a choice ... and man chose wrong."
"Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned." Romans 5:12. The answer all should know.

[2590] So who is this God who created everything? Who created the good things the world offers? What about the bad things? The earthquakes, the volcanoes, the floods and storms? These are serious questions. How can we answer them? We shall try. First we must go back to the beginning where God said after finishing His creation, "And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good." Gen, 1:31. Is that statement a problem considering what we see today? Yes, it is - unless we continue reading from the quoted verse and what do we find? We find this, the arrival of sin and the fall of man into sin because of the success Satan had to lead Adam and Eve into doubting what God said. So let us establish that God, at first, created a perfect earth and universe. Knowing what we know today, and looking at what our earth looks like today, we cannot say that it is anymore "very good". What happened? This happened. Our earth being `very good' at first must mean that it was a perfectly balanced nuclear reactor giving precise nuclear radiation and thermal energy with the band of asphalt, hyrdocarbons moderating and sustaining a constant temperature of that energy so wisely designed into the internal structure. With the water, the great deep, then transporting that energy through aqueducts and aquifers to the surface of the globe so that there would be a gentle overflow of water, refreshing and cleansing all the deposits and refuse of the creation on the surface. Is it possible that the Creator not only designed the infrastructure of the globe and a habitat for living forms but also provided a beautiful permanent canopy that would receive short wave energy from stellar bodies and amplify the mid-spectral light for the benefit of man and living systems on earth? Is it possible that all of these living systems were designed, coordinated and orchestrated for the benefit of one that God would ultimately create on the final 6th day of creation week in His now image to impress His own purpose and design upon him to be in charge of the creation, to be master of all that God had designed for the earth and to actually influence the universe itself? Is that possible?
In the beginning our earth had a perfect fiery hot interior which was affected by sin. The Bible says that before the Flood it had never rained (Gen. 2:5,8; 3:5; 7:11). That must mean that at creation everything was perfectly balanced. It must mean that all electrical influences as far as we have discovered them - electro-magnetic, the magnetic field which is said to change slowly over time so that true north migrates around the polar areas. It must mean that the perfect nutritional balance at the beginning was disrupted, causing some of God's creatures/creations to become predators or requiring a host (plants). It must mean, that in perfect conditions man was able to communicate directly with God, so we may say that God knew right away when man sinned. This we can only understand when we say that minute electrical impulses emanating from our brain are detectable by God, Gen. 3:8. So, sin must have resulted in impulses which were abnormal, they caused a disruption - though very minute at first - in God's originally perfect creation. As the sins of the human race increased dramatically, these signals must have too, apparently influencing the perfect `electro-magnetical(?)' atmosphere God had made around earth to be impaired, and the perfect nuclear balance inside the earth to become disordered. What happened then? Well, at the start of the Flood, "the fountains of the deep were broken up" Gen. 7:11, destroying the perfect atmospheric canopy which God had made, which in turn caused abnormal quantities of moisture to rain upon the earth for 40 days and nights. Once the crust was disturbed by those jets of water exploding through the surface - for the electro-magnetic balance was disrupted - causing heat waves to heat water inside the earth which exploded through the surface, probably world wide, giving rise to earthquakes and volcanoes, which in turn brought elements into rock layers and change the `perfect' crust of the whole earth as a result of the great upheaval the Flood represents. So, such a delineation of events, as best as we can, could explain what caused the earth to transition from being `very good' to `not so good' today. Was it God's fault? No. Man, a free moral being like all of God's intelligent beings, chose to distrust what God had said. They fell for the lies of Satan, which they were warned about, that he was roaming around, Gen. 2:16,17.

[2593] The world finds itself in this situation today. Satan masterfully worked to undermine faith in God and His Word in the mind of most people on earth. While God's people know we cannot convert the whole world to return to God, we also know, Christ died and provided an escape out of this world of sin for every human being if they wanted it and chose to abide by its terms.

[2605] The claim that no rain had fallen until the Flood, is lately being challenged on technical, supposedly scientific grounds [due to the water cycle (evaporation, condensation, precipitation), no water gets ever lost, Job 36:27-33.]. But as we know, none of these scientists where there to see it, do measurements, observations or could ask the people. Genesis 2:5 is pre-fall and plainly states that up to that time it had not yet rained. That means that Moses, the editor of Genesis, had this information from a later period. Genesis 3:8 is a record just after the fall. At that time we are told that the Lord was walking in the cool of the day ... It does not say anything about moisture directly but we may understand today such a cooling of the day is not in conflict with the idea that moisture was present to produce it. This together with the information that during the Flood itself, the breaking up of the fountains of the deep (Gen. 7:11) is mentioned, may be a hint to help us understand how the forested lands received moisture. Their sources of water were not solely depending on fog or morning mist. Most likely rivers and creeks were plentiful and never far away like they can be today. That is a strong hint, that up to the time of the Flood no rain had occurred. What this writer would like to point out is that, when Noah constructed the ark, and while working on the project warned the people of a coming Flood, they did not pay attention to him, because such a phenomena was unknown to them. Their continued long ages may also argue for the fact that environmental changes up to that time were initially slow and accelerated more significantly after the Flood event. Climatologists of today, may not be quite correct to project today's data into that period of time. - Therefore, I contend that no rain fell until the time of the Flood.

[2606] It appears that Satan is trying to overthrow even this command by the melting of the polar ice caps and glaciers which today's `scientists' say will cost trillions of dollars to do what? ... correct it? .... stop it? .... dig a different pathway for the water? .... Ho, ho, ho, one might be tempted to say. But God's word says, the world will end on the day of the Second Coming, when events, happenings, wars, atrocities, crimes will make the outlook as dark as hairs of sackcloth; and no, the references to Christ's `Second Coming' and similar phrases are not metaphores.

[2680] It seems that this account of the event does not rule out that examples of each kind of creature entered the ark, i.e. one `dog/wolf' kind etc. We may also assume that the creatures coming were juvenile kinds which probably would hibernate, those who can, for most of the time, thus requiring less feeding. All these possibilities seem not to be contradicted by this writers opinion. This account also teaches that only clean meats may be eaten if vegetables are not available. Meat today, even clean meat, is suspect of many poisons (animals are vaccinated) and the like and do not eat it, if possible at all.

[2700] Noah was not like Cain, he was like Abel. He was 480 years of age when he gegan to build the ark, thus he had much more experience than anyone has today or has ever had on earth who lives only 70 or 80 years. In his days, man was not indolent or lazy, they did not sit around or sleep all day. No doubt, he build many implements for conveyence and transport, including homes for his family. When the world was judged at the Flood, he build the ark for 120 years (Hebr. 11:7) and then he was sealed in the ark for seven days before the waters arrived, Gen. 7:4,10. His period of testing and trial. Those who were not in the ark were destroyed by the catastrophic power of the water which forms now the oceans. Only those eight people inside the ark survived the Flood, they were four males and each one's wife. All his working on the ark was in cooperation with God, and so God protected his ship from destruction. God could have `raptured' Noah out of the calamities, he could have spoken the ark into existence. Instead, he asked Noah to get a saw, cut wood, get a hammer and some nails and construction began. At the end of the convulsions in nature, Noah sent out the dove and the raven in seven day intervals, once more emphasizing the seven day weekly cycle and with it the sanctity of God's holy Sabbath. It is God's rest, and the dove was looking for a place to rest, for an olive twig as a sign of peace.

[2720] These are reactions of those who believed the spiritualistic delusions of Satan. They were in the majority in numbers, wealth and successes in constructing their edifices. That teaches us never to regard these things as decisive evidence if one is led by God or not. Only by looking in the Word of God and comparing the beliefs, the faith, doctrines and its fruits can truth be discerned. Fruits are those of the spirit which does not fight the Word of God in any respect. Their idols and images were precursors of Baal. How Baal worship can be recognized is shown here.

[2730] The Flood Event Diagram

Genesis Events Day-Month-Year of Noah's Life Total days
7:11 Flood starts 17-2--600 40
7:12 Rain till 40th day 26-3--600 150 days
7:24 (8:3) Water prevails till 150th day 16-7--600 110
8:4 Ark aground 17-7--600 74
8:5 Mountains visible 1-10--600 40
8:6,7 Raven sent 10-11--600 7
8:8 Dove sent 17-11--600 7
8:10,11 Dove and leaf 24-11--600 7 220 days
8:12 Dove departs 1-12--600 Does not return
8:13 Ground dried 1-1--601 29
8:14-16 Disembarkation 27-2--601 56
[Note: In the reconstruction of dates the day reckoned as part of one period of days is not counted again for the following period of days.]
The calculations follow the Egyptian calendar with 12 months of 30 days each, adding up to 360 days for the year and not the solar year of 365 days of the lunar year of 354 days. Having shown that the writer is most likely Moses, we agree with the famous Assyriologist A. Heidel who said, "There is here no discrepancy whatever." (A. Heidel, The Gilgamesh Epic and Old Testament Parallels, 2nd ed., Chicago; Univers. Press, 1963, p. 247.)

[2900] The evidence of the world wide Flood is persuasive and not undocumented. Atlases may show how the mighty rivers of our age, once had their channels and mouths open into the sea in places now under the oceans. That is true for the Elbe River where it flows into the North Sea as well as the Indus River whose channel and mouth extends over 100 km into the Arabian Sea to a depth of 800-1000 meters. That is true for most of the big rivers on all continents. Much if not all of the pre-Flood civilization lies now under the oceans or is covered up with massive amounts of rocks and soil.

[2930] Creationists can point to much evidence which declares that features in the land were produced in a much different way then postulated by evolutionists. In fact everything we see can be explained much better with the creation model, than it can with Darwin's tall theories. Today we know that land and sea features were created by dramatic changes in the earth's crust which occurred in the catastrophic changes which accompanied the Great World Wide Flood. These catastrophic events included the break up of the earth's crust, massive tectonic changes, shifting and subversion of continental plates which changed in a Gaussian curve. That is why locations of special geological interest, like the Galapagos Islands are only about 4000 years old. With the Flood dated to ca. 2302 BC, the single Ice Age, too, followed and disappeared some six to nine hundred years later. Geologists will state that the Galapagos Islands are located at the intersection of five tectonic plates. When these shift they can create large cracks in the crust of the earth called faults. Many of such faults are underneath the oceans of the world. The Flood explains the source of the force required to cause these plates to crack, move and overlap. Slow events over millions or even billions of years would never be able to achieve such changes. We all know the tremendous power large amounts of water have. That is the answer we see in the shapes and layers on the continents and among the islands all around the world. Thus, the Galapagos Islands were created over time by the Flood overlapping the crust in that area, followed by volcanic activity, earthquakes, tidal waves, giant storms and further shifting of crustal plates. In the Galapagos archipelagos the western islands are still geological hotspots today. That is why the `younger' islands occur on the western side while they grow `older' as you travel east.

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