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Part 1 Part 2 | Answers to Questions on Death and Dying | A Fallen Church |
A changed God? Master Key Last Events Offsite info: More on Lazarus Champions | We are living in a time where people ask, `I am looking for a godly answer to why I am dying.' As we read these inquiries, we know that there is much heartache everywhere. We want to help you to find God's answer to such questions, and so we begin with a short introduction for the wide and varied Internet community. For many people thoughts about the `Beyond' are perplexing and many prefer just to go along with traditional concepts on what happens to a person after death. Can we know anything for certain about the `Beyond'? Yes, we may know that above all things we can do each day, ought to be praising God in prayer and song for all the guidance and goodness He has shown us during our life. People use all sorts of methods to try and penetrate the barrier and get a glimpse behind the `veil'. Some occupy themselves with Astrology, Satanism, Spiritualism, Pantheism, Re-Incarnation or Ancestor Worship. "Ancestor worship, known as the Spiritualism of the East, survives as the exponent of immortality." [100] But now we realize that the Bible is the only source which can shed light on this age old question on the mortality or immortality of the soul. [105] And so we approach the subject by starting with the biblical assertions of the beings of the `Beyond'. All these non-Christians believing in a being like Satan may make it surprising that some Christians don't seem to believe in the existence of a devil, Satan, the arch enemy of God, of whom we read:
It was Satan's rebellion and consequent deception of man and their fall which caused the first war in the universe and it took place in heaven. When Satan killed Jesus Christ, he was cast out of heaven:
There was `War in Heaven'! It is bad enough to have war on earth among nations, but in heaven too? [120] What was the outcome of that war?
From then on peace could reign again about the throne of God:
For us it is important to recognize that it was Jesus Christ who overcame Satan and cast him out of heaven, and for us it is also through Jesus Christ that we can overcome Satan and sin today.
This is referring to the martyrs through the ages, who overcame Satan and his snare by giving their lives for their belief in Christ. As Satan, the devil or Lucifer was cast out of heaven, he hissed his wrath and vengeance back to God, and made it known that he was determined to fight the Almighty to the bitter end. Satan hates God, and everything that pertains to Him, for he lost his place in heaven. He hates God's truth, and endeavors in every way to pervert it, not wanting anyone gain what he lost. He works through all possible means to corrupt the truth of God, and to corrupt those who have been created by God in the image of Himself.[150] Satan and his once holy, now fallen, angels were driven out of heaven by Jesus and His holy angels:
Many and varied are his deceptions. Because he has such a short time, he is working today as never before to deceive all who will `listen' to him. We also know that Satan has no scruples against using the lowest forms of deception to lead men astray. Jesus told the Jews who sought to kill him:
Having been a highly placed angel in the government of God, Satan was created as a free-choice, beautiful being, full of wisdom and gifts of God. But sin was found in him first causing him to turn his God given gifts into lying evil, shrewdness, and cleverness. He is a master of deception and goes about like "a roaring lion" who succeeded in deceiving 1/3 of the angelic host to follow him. If he could deceive the holy angels dwelling in the presence of God, who are we to discern his temptations? He is still powerful enough to perform miracles the Bible says:
The snares of Satan or his bait illustrates that Satan may actively go around to entice people to follow him, people who have accepted his lies, and do the work of their master.
It certainly sounds that Satan has a very large following which ought to give us pause to consider these scriptural references. From verse 16 we learn that there will be a battle of Armageddon close to the end of the history of this world, as a climax of the lying wonders and deceptions of the spirits of devils. So we know that Satan and his evil angels work through people to tempt us, that is why we must learn about recognizing temptations and turn away from them.
Satan and his evil ministering spirits can appear very righteous. Jesus warned of great wonders of miracles in the last days, before His Second Coming to end the reign of sin, which will deceive many.
In other words, do not think those places where great What in essence happens is, Jesus buys us back from the grave.
"Christ Jesus who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time." 1.Timothy 2:5-6 What is the power of the grave? It is the power of bondage. Unable to resurrect ourselves, the grave is a long sleep and no end in sight for death is the opposite of life. Since we have sinned, death owns us. Jesus came to serve us by dying for us and redeeming us. He came to give His life for repentant, faithful sinners. A Christian's comfort is not to go to heaven at death, but to awake at the last Trump of God. The next Bible truth is that Jesus did not just die; He arose from the grave making all resurrections possible on the day God will accomplish it.
"Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: He is risen; He is not here." Mark 16:6 "He is not here, but is risen." Luke 24:6. But the Jews had a platoon of a Roman guard watch the grave, Mt. 27:64-66; 28:4,11-15; (Cmpr. Dan. 6:17). Yet, they had no power to stop the resurrection of Christ. The bright light of the angel of the Lord caused them to fall to the ground as if they were dead. But Jesus, always concerned about the spiritual condition of His disciples sought them out.
"We are buried with Him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life." Romans 6:4; Col. 2:12. In these scriptures we simply read, `Jesus ... was crucified ..." and "... he is risen.' There is no allusion that a soul of Christ, meanwhile, went to heaven and returned just before his resurrection to reoccupy his body. We learn the opposite of this unscriptural view when we read the words addressed to Mary Magdalene by Christ himself, "I am not yet ascended to my Father." John 20:17. The Bible teaches no split personalty between a body and immortal soul - the "snake" does. Jesus and his contemporaries were immersed in their divinely given cultural world view, that, when man dies, he rests peacefully in his grave. The dead know not anything, "For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. . . . Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest." Eccl. 9:5,6,10. What we just read speaks of the sleep death we all die. Without Christ, the second death is forever for those who chose not to trust in Him. In this OT passage the details of death and judgment are not explained. Additional scriptures must be consulted. Because Jesus did not die on the cross to sanctify another day to keep holy but to redeem us out of a world of sin, and because we are not to keep the day of crucifixion or resurrection holy but only preach about these events to lead people to accept Jesus as their redeemer, Christianity is challenged to reconsider. Ishmael: Even the descendants of Abraham, who believed in the mortality of the soul and kept God's seventh day holy, and the descendants of his son, born of the free woman, so too probably the descendants of Ishmael believed these things, for we read, "And these are the years of the life of Ishmael, a hundred and thirtyseven years: and he gave up the ghost and died: and was gathered unto his people. . . . and he died in the presence of all his brethren." Genesis 25:17,18 and "And Abraham said unto God, O that Ishmael might live before thee!" Gen. 17:18, hoping Ishmael might be a follower of the true God in Heaven while alive on earth as Abraham obeyed God and kept His commandments, statutes and laws, Gen. 26:5. But Ishmael nursed anger toward Abraham because of not being considered primary heir. However, all he knew originally about certain basic beliefs like what happens at death and on which day to rest, were uneffected by that at least for a season.[570] So it is true that the descendants of Isaac and Ishmael became mighty nations and we may have this hope in our bosom that, once the Arabic descendants of Ishmael find out that their highly esteemed progenitor "Father" kept the Sabbath, they will too, and Islam will be pacified and God in Heaven glorified so peace can reign in the heart, at least for those few among them which may search for truth for Christ died for all. Communion service was given the early Christian church to remember the cross and the empty tomb. Baptism was given to mark the day when, for a new convert, faith was professed and is likened to the broken body of Jesus on the cross, buried in the watery `grave', but then rises again. Because He is a risen Saviour, we have hope. Our Father accepted the sacrifice of His Son in our behalf. The fact that Christ has risen from the grave means His sacrifice is accepted. It means Jesus can move from the `prophet phase' to the `priest phase', and from the `priest phase' to the `king phase', Joh. 12:13; Rev. 1:5. He longs to receive us to Himself, that where He is, we may be also. He is watching to see whether we will be captivated by His goodness and show our acceptance of His sacrifice by manifesting a like character in the world that needs His witness.
But there are lying spirits (1.Kings 22:21f) still working to sow doubt. The devils are skilled but miserable deceivers. They do not countenance all the scriptures which bear on the subject we discuss. They know that there will be a day of judgment and they dread it and will lie about it. Do not follow them in their resistance to the truths in the Word of God. The Need for Consistent Bible Study Methods One of the most perplexing and confused subjects in the area of Bible studies, is the topic on `What happens to us after we die.' In this section we want to point out a logical approach which should help you to arrive at sound conclusions. This method of presenting the topic should include the following definitions and criteria: 1. A word study of the key words, i.e. spirit and soul.The scriptural definition of spirit (Hebr. ruach, Greek pneuma ) includes the following observations: In the Old Testament, the `spirit' (ruach) is explained as: Click here for the Bible texts
In the New Testament `spirit' (pneuma) can have the following meanings: Click here for the Bible texts
When God gives `his breath', it is more than air, it is life and becomes the chemistry of the body. In the Old Testament the definition of soul (Hebr. nephesh) shows that nephesh is translated
The word nephesh never means a conscious, ever living entity capable to exist apart from the body.
In the New Testament the Hebrew nephesh is equivalent to the Greek word psuche and means "life" or "soul" and is translated:
The Greek word for destroy is apollumi (Mt. 10:28) which can mean: destroy, die, lose, mar and perish. For some the conundrum is, can it mean `annihilation'? Does the meaning of perish, approach that of `annihilation'? It is a mute question, however, considering the fact that Christ did not meet the thief in heaven on the day he died. `Annihilation' does not take place until the time of the second death from which there is no resurrection. `Human beings were created as an indivisible whole wherein such components as the physical body, mind, soul (a living being), spirit (our thinking mind, character), emotions, and the will interact, influencing each of the other components. Components are interdependent and all are needed for human beings to survive in a healthy state. Thus, people do not possess immortal souls that live in physical bodies for a short space of time. When they physically die, they do not continue to live somewhere in a spiritual, disembodied state. They "sleep" (in Biblical terms) awaiting the call of the Life Giver. Because human beings are not composed of three units (body, spirit, soul) separate from one another; the well-being of the physical body directly affects the health of the mind (including the emotions and spiritual values), and vice-versa. Each person's health depends on the optimal interacting of all that contributes to a healthy body and to a healthy mind.' The meaning of the Hebrew word `sheol', translated into the Greek word `hades'. These words, `sheol' and `hades,' carry the meaning of grave. Death is the punishment for sin, not some type of period of torture as some believe. The scriptures intend to show that the death of a righteous, knowing he is at peace with God, can be peaceful while the death of the wicked, not knowing what awaits him, can be fearful. [See Champions on conditional immortality for the historic view.] We also must understand that the grave is not "the heart of the earth" (Mt. 12:40; Jonah 2:6) but rather the church (with Christ in it) is in the spiritual sense the heart and the life of the earth. The grave is not the generator of life, but the container of death, and therefore can never be called "the heart of the earth", not more than a man's carcass can be called his soul. The apostle Peter explains what and where hell is:
Where is hell according to Peter? Since there is a beginning of judgment, meaning it has not been in session all along but starts at a given time, the dead (what: the grave, hell) or those to be judged from Adam onward, have been waiting for the judgment to evaluate their case and compare it to the record of their life kept in the heavenly record books. For Peter the beginning of the judgment was closer then for Enos or Daniel since Jesus would be the Savior, Priest and Judge after his sacrifice on the cross, resurrection, ascension and priestly service in the heavenly sanctuary. Thus, careful study shows that the Bible contains the answer to that question already since Old Testament times.
"Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power." 2.Thess. 1:9 The denial of eternal life with God, in the judgment it is called hell; mental anguish on why such a one would insist not to want to be with God but instead chose separation from God, ending in their destruction (Obad. 16b), even though hell was prepared only for Satan and his evil angels (Mt. 25:41), when people separate themselves from God, He must honor their free choice. The second death, from which there is no resurrection, is the punishment of sin, which in itself is a merciful event, for heaven would be for them a place they could not endure since they never learned to love God or anything about His government.
Fear them which can destroy the unrepenting person by making him suffer the second death where he loses the gift of eternal life. The verse underscores the understanding that body and soul are an inseparable unit - a body in which the spark of life is, is a living body or person.[672] One does not exist without the other.
"Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die." Since in Hebrew there is no direct word for "it", we must understand the context to decide how to read a sentence. That is why the word "it" above should read `he' or `she' as the following verse shows:
The sin of Adam and Eve led to the fact that they were denied eternal life:
Sending Adam and Eve out of the garden cut them off from the `Tree of Life' which is an added verification that man does not have an immortal soul. Man was locked out of the Garden of Eden (Gen. 3:23,24) so he would surely die, all of him, and not become an eternally living sinner not even having passed through judgment.[674]
The fire which destroys the already dead (stubble) wicked is said to be everlasting because its effects are everlasting, or eternal, for God and the brightness that surrounds Him is eternal. But when does the punishment take place?
Jesus teaches here that the "harvest" is the end of the world; therefore the wicked are not being punished now. Matthew continues:
These verses destroy the view that at death something like a `soul' is released from the body and goes to heaven, according to teachers of the immortality of the soul, or to a place of punishment. `Hades' (i.e. hell) is a word for `grave' and that is all it is. It is wrong to teach that the body of Jesus was in the grave but his `spirit' in heaven. It is even a greater error and not biblical to teach that the body of Jesus did not start decaying from the moment of his death.[700] Such views of the immortality of a soul are presuppositions in the mind of those who teach these ideas. They read the scriptures, with these ideas already in their thinking. The Hebrews did not believe thus. Lesson learned? Start with the Bible, not your church's creeds. `Life after death' is a biblical teaching and comes only through Jesus. The Bible makes no distinction between the death of a `righteous' or `wicked' person, that is so, because that `distinction' comes into play only on resurrection day when Jesus returns again and His shout wakes up his faithful people from the grave while those who did not follow His invitation cannot hear or respond to it since they did not respond to His many everlasting gospel invitations during their life and so they will not be resurrected until a much later time. Immortal life is received only through Jesus - John 1:4; 3:16; 17:2. Therefore, we may most assuredly know that the resurrection is the beginning of our immortality, not before. John 3:16 is here of particular interest:
The Greek word for `perish' means "to utterly destroy", "to blot out", "to vanish into nothingness." It refers to the end of all unrepentant sinners, and of Satan himself, all of these will perish but not so God's faithful flock. We find the same in the words, "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 6:23. Comparing two opposites, `perish' and `everlasting life' is a common Hebrew way of writing. This `perishing' is not the sleep death, but the second death in contrast with everlasting life. The reading of 1.John 5:12 "He that has the Son has life..." should read "He that has the Son has the life ..." and refers to the eternal life of verse 11 leaving the time spent in the grave unmentioned for in Paul's time the Hebrews knew that all parts of the dead rest in the grave.[800] This is the sense in which Philippians 1:23 must be understood where Paul says:
"... having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ, which is far better." Paul knew very well that before `being with Christ' comes the resurrection, therefore, quoting only one of these two verses may be misleading in today's confusion of the doctrine, for we read in Phil. 3:10-11:
"That I may know him and the power of his resurrection ... If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead." Paul believed that the `righteousness by faith in Jesus' (the giving up of self), he talked about in verse 9, is essential for a follower of Christ. The same meaning is conveyed in 1.Corinthians 5:1-6 which must be compared with 1.Corinthians 15:51-54. This `life' mentioned above begins with the Christian's new birth (John 3:7) and continues throughout all eternity; but it may be interrupted by death and restarted by the resurrection at Christ's Second Coming. Thoughts or Answers to Questions Visitors Asked Q: Why do we die when we go to God anyway? To answer such a question we must go back to the very beginning. It requires us to exercise simple faith in the Word of God. Man was created to live forever. - DNA, RNA and all these studies proof that there is no such thing as a simple cell, the progenitor of everything alive. It reveals the laboratory of God and how intricately he provided for everything. Sin spoiled the peace and tranquillity of Eden. God had warned the first parents. Nevertheless, they fell and today we are still part of the history of sin in God's universe; but the struggle is nearing its final end rather quickly. So take courage and pray to get your life right with God who made provisions for the salvation of each soul/living person on the condition of our cooperation with His plan and not ours or that of churches which have left the platform of faith and truth. Repent, confess and seek forgiveness for all your sins and forget to ever commit them again and the blood of Jesus will wash you clean as He officiates in the heavenly sanctuary, see `Book of Hebrews'. God will bless those who put forth an earnest effort in this direction. Live up to all that is revealed to you by studying His word and claim Jesus as your Savior every day and you will be saved. Living that way, death loses its darkness and fear, since now you can look forward to be raised from death and be part of the soon coming kingdom of God - now by faith, but soon in reality. Death looses its forebodings and is now merely a short sleep, a rest, having died in the knowledge of the resurrection at the Second Coming of Christ in might and power to end the reign of sin and death. Therefore, if you can trust the Lord in something like this, how can you not trust Him about whatever "smaller" things you are struggling with? A: To put it in a few words. It is important to remind us of the biblical distinction on the subject of death. According to Jesus when people get sick or old and "die" Jesus does not call it "death" but "sleep", the consequence of sin, Acts 7:60; Job 14:12-14; Jh. 5:28; Rev. 20:6;. Why? Because `dying, or death', as distinguished from the `going to sleep' kind of death Jesus spoke of, is the death, according to the Bible, which those die who have turned their back on God, rejected Him and chose to not want to be part of the Kingdom of God, 2.Thess. 1:9; Mt. 10:28; Ez. 18:4. This group made that choice during their natural life span in this earthly world. We have only this life to choose between a life with God, which He promises those who exercise the faith of Jesus and obey Him, or a life without Him. This underscores again that we have two choices, for or against God. While we all die the `sleep' death, only those who accept Christ as their Savior can inherit eternal life, while the rejecters of God's amazing grace will die the second death from which there is no resurrection, the consequence of their willful separation from God. Considering the horrendous outworking of wickedness in our world, and how it affects people, parents ask, what happens to those torn from us before we chose Christ ourselves, will God have mercy and unite us with them? While we cannot second guess God on how He may decide these cases, check out what the hope of David was. Remember, we cannot pray for the dead. God's Word admonishes those with broken hearts to come to Him and be healed of their sorrow, pain and heavy mind.[888] But what about this explanation on death and eternal life by those who believe in an immortal soul? "When we receive the free gift of eternal life, we are passed from death to life (John 5:24). But because the whole creation is still suffering from bondage to decay (and will continue to groan until the day of redemption, Acts 3:21), we still physically die to shed our mortal sin-filled bodies. As Paul said, flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God (1.Cor. 15:50-53), although we are already heirs of God (Romans 8:17); we must shed our perishing bodies in order to inherit eternal life. Until Christ comes again and brings about the new heavens and earth, physical death is, for those who believe, their usher into eternal life with the Creator in their free-from-the-Curse bodies (1.Cor. 15:35-58). Although we still die, Jesus removed the "sting" of death for His children (V. 54-57) with the promise of life eternal. Those who reject the free offer of eternal life will die the second death (Rev. 2:11; 20:6,14; 21:8). Physical death is the merciful way that God has given us to pass into His presence, instead of living forever in our sinful state with sin-filled bodies that are suffering from 6,000 years of the curse." [underlined by us] The shedding of our mortal body - What does the Bible mean by that? Explaining the underlined phrases:
1. `When we receive the free gift of eternal life ...', is the critical question. To the author of this little reminder, for their followers it takes place at death; from the biblical point of view, which is the only one that counts, it shall take place on the day Jesus comes again as we shall explain at length. Additional Explanations: The "hearing of the voice of the Son of God" takes place on the day of His Second Coming when the trump of God wakes up those from their sleep death who are written in the Book of Life to be with the Lord for ever more. We learn here two truths: (a) no immortal soul is implied, (b) since God already knows who are worthy of receiving eternal life when He comes again, the decision (`judgment'), who shall be part of the first resurrection, occurred before that day. On this topic of the `shedding', the crucial difference is to discover at which time this `shedding' of our mortal body occurs. Two choices are offered:
In the Book of Job we read this truth, "My breath is corrupt, my days are extinct, the graves are ready for me. ... If I wait, the grave is my house." Job 17:1,13. It is from the grave that Jesus will call his elect, his redeemed, when He comes. That is why He said, "The hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear His voice, and shall come forth." John 5:28,29. There is no allusion anywhere in the teachings of Jesus that an immortal soul is in heaven. Our text says, all the dead are in (inside) their graves when Jesus comes.
Paul begins his 15th chapter in 1.Corinthians by testifying to the fact that Christ was seen by Ce'phas (another name for Simon, Luke 24:34), the 12 disciples, by over 500 followers, James, the brother of Jesus, all the apostles and by Paul himself after His historical resurrection - and we know that His resurrection body was of flesh and blood to the touch of the disciples. So will we be too. Man is not a spirit like the angels, Hebr. 1:13,14.
Both of these groups next meet the Lord in the air as they are lifted up above the earth by the power of God in their `changed' body, 1.Thess. 4:17; 1.Cor. 15:51-54, for Christ never touches the earth when He comes again according to verse 17. This is the moment of the shedding of their mortal body. All the redeemed shed their mortal body and receive their immortal body at this time. It happens to both groups at the same time. Paul says, "... when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption ..." The sentence construction uses future perfect which happens when "Death is swallowed up in victory," which was attained by Jesus Christ, V. 54. `Death' is here in capital letters and descriptive of Satan. We already mentioned that Satan will reign until the day of the Second Coming (leaving the Millennium unexplained for now). We ought to recognize that before Satan, Death, is conquered, no human being (except the `first fruits') arrives in heaven since the victory is not fully, gloriously demonstrated until the day of the Lord's Return in Glory. All those resurrected by the prophets, Jesus, the apostles and God's mighty evangelists, died again after having been resurrected. Post Script: Those, who do not believe in a bodily resurrection, see no need of a resurrection of the body if the future existence is wholly spiritual. For the same reason they consider a future judgment unnecessary, if the soul is already enjoying the bliss of ethereal existence, or the torture of the damned. Accordingly the judgment should have taken place before their future state was decided, not after. Belief in immediate bliss or damnation after death makes a future judgment at the end of the world not only unnecessary but inconsistent. It seems so much more satisfying and in line with Creationists, to believe that the future existence of the saved will be molded somewhat on the original plan of the Garden of Eden, where Adam and Eve enjoyed existence on a plan not unlike our present one, yet without sin. It seems reasonable to believe that God has not abandoned His original plan. If He has not, there must be a resurrection of the body. A just judgment must take place way later, after the death of a person, because the effects of his or her deeds are not fully revealed before the bar of justice until all those touched by that person's influence have outlived their reactions to it. But then another question is asked, `We know that the body dies, but doesn't the spirit go to heaven to be with the Lord?'
In this enumeration of Paul, he desired first to rest in the grave until the great day of His appearance as he explains the meaning of this verse in 1.Thessalonians 4:13-18 (particularly in verse 17)[1300], and secondly to meet, be present with the Lord in the air to be with Him forever more. The spirit is the record of a person's character, his way of thinking, which `goes to God', meaning it is recorded in the heavenly ledger - it is not something that stays alive after death -, it just remains known to God. In other words, heaven maintains an exact copy of our life in living colors. When Jesus resurrected, did He remember everything from before He died? ... everything about His disciples? ... what He did? Will we remember everything when we are resurrected? Yes. The Bible teaches that our thoughts pick up where they left of at death. That means if you are in tune with God all the days of your life, you are saved and glorify God. On the other hand it means also, that the soldier of some wicked king, who died while just being ready to throw his spear, will be raised in that frame of mind. Therefore, on the issue of what happens to us at death the Bible teaches that we have only this earthly life to ready us for a life with God. It means, the only thing we take to heaven is our character. Again, we have here the unstated background of what the early Christian church believed about death, the resurrection, and what is to occur at the Second Coming. Such Bible verses bank on pre-existing information the church members knew already from previous sermons and study sessions. Therefore, it did not have to be explained over and over again to them. That is why we cannot use such texts (as 2.Cor. above) all by themselves as proof texts. We must consult the whole Bible if we have trouble recognizing the true answer, for as you can tell, reading these writings some 2000 years later requires insightful study many are not willing to invest. Some commentators express the view that Hebrews 12:22-23 talks about the "spirits" as if they are alive and in heaven. The 12th chapter of Hebrews talks about that believers are compassed by a "cloud of witnesses", holy angels (Hebr. 12:1,22). It talks about "... the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which `are written in heaven' (Note: they are written in heaven, not bodily present) `and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect.'" Who are these `just men'? Of course they are the faithful people, those whose names are written in the book of life in heaven. Thus, in their thoughts, prayers and aspirations they "dwell" in heaven but live on earth. James, the brother of Jesus, tells us about these "`pneuma/breath/air' spirits" only a few pages later. James wrote: "... the body without the `pneuma/air' spirit is dead ...". (James 2:26) James just expresses a biological fact. What does this unity imply? When air breathing, living creatures die, they cease to breath air. For the ancients that was the test of death. When God created Adam, we read: "And the Lord God formed [1500] man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Genesis 2:7 [1510] The components of creation are: A body + breath = a living soul (1. Cor. 15:45). Take one of these away, death results and death is the opposite of creation. This word `soul' is scripturally explained to be a complete human being underscored by the Bible in the OT and NT which states that a soul was not placed into man, but the breath was. It states that a soul can die, Ez. 18:4; James 5:20. In addition we note that God `breathed into his nostrils', not his heart or brain. The nostrils provide a path for air to pass into the lungs. Are we to assume the soul resides in the lungs? Of course those who defend the notion of an immortal soul may object and claim the soul is not a substance, it is immaterial. Still, if such an imagined soul really is immortal, wouldn't God let us know that and how he breathed it into the body of Adam where we would assume the essence of his personality resides? Our body, brain, all our organs are physical and perishable at death. But it is true. The soul certainly is immaterial. It is nothing. For the only particle or thing remaining of a human being is memories and an entry in the `super computer record book' maintained in heaven. The Bible teaches that man was created a little lower than the angels, Psalm 8:5; Hebrews 2:7. That is so, because man is not a spirit being like the angels. This is what biblical revelation teaches and there is no reason that we should think of the soul as anything else but a complete, flesh and blood human being. All biblical texts which deal with these words, `soul (psuche=life)' and `spirit', are explained this way. Those who speak of man possessing an immortal `soul' or `spirit' are not establishing that on the basis of a biblical definition [1600]. Quick Insert: I just finished after some 14 hours or so of typing a very helpful chapter of a very thick book which wonderfully explains where the ideas of an immortal soul really came from. The author would be very happy to know this is made available for all. It looks centuries back in history showing how in Egypt asceticism began, leading to monasteries and so on, and how that all was based on Plato talk about the soul and how monks were instrumental in bringing their strange ideas into the once Christian church and changing it forever. We ought to know some of these connections to understand the history behind the history. The article has a very good defense on what death is and how the Bible teaches what happens to us when we die. [Click Plato, Souls and Monks] According to Genesis man is created of a body plus the breath to make a living soul or spirit, referring to his mental qualities, his very physical life. That is why we read:
"And it came to pass after these things, that the son of the woman, the mistress of the house, fell sick; and his sickness was so sore, that there was no breath left in him." 1.Kings 17:17.
"And he stretched himself upon the child three times, and cried unto the Lord, and said, O Lord my God, I pray thee, let this child's soul come into him again. And the Lord heard the voice of Elijah; and the soul of the child came into him again, and he revived." 1.Kings 17:21-22.[1700]
We read in these scriptures that in Old Testament times the soul is equated with the breath of a living human being.
A List of Texts:
1. `The spirit (Hebrew: `ruach') of God is in my nostrils' Job 27:3
2. A `soul' can die:
"The soul that sinneth, it shall die." Ezekiel 18:20
"And that day Joshua ... smote it with the edge of the sword, and the king therefore he utterly destroyed ... and all the souls that were therein." Joshua 10:28,30,32
At the moment of death, when a living person suddenly ceases to have this divine quality of life some perceive that something like a soul leaves a body. But that idea occurs only in the thinking of the person who was taught the immortality of the soul whereas the Bible teaches the mortality of the soul. In the dying person, the easily observable cessation of breathing marks the moment of death, one part of the above equation does not function anymore. The person falls `asleep' in death and only God's resurrection power can raise him or her again.
The truth of this matter may be illustrated by the following consideration. How people die has many causes. How can something like an immortal soul escape from someone being instantly incinerated in a nuclear flash? The answer is, no `immortal soul' needs to escape, for the `spirit' or `soul' of a human being is the whole living person with a thinking mind or functioning brain. In every case God miraculously recreates the dead from the genetic elements recorded of the person. When Jesus and Lazarus rose, their body was not anymore in the tomb. Neither had they decayed to a skeleton or evaporated in a fiery flash, but to some that can happen and God can raise those too.
Jacob and countless others expected to rest in their grave as the following scriptures reveal:
Jacob had nothing to say about knowing anything after his death that would enable him to watch the life of his children from heaven. Only God could do that. Jacob expected to rest in the grave. He, as well as Joseph, wanted to be buried near his own people when on that great day of resurrection the saints rise to meet God in the air. He wanted to experience that day and be able to see The Sight.[1850]
But what about these verses?
When would David go to be again with his infant son? When he himself dies? No. All God's people are reunited on the same day, at the same instant, when Jesus returns in glory the Second time. That is the event, David knew, he was looking forward to, Ps. 50:3-6; 96:13; Acts 2:29. We learn here that God will judge the people found written in His Book of Life before the time of His coming to this world. David looked forward to his second coming, for when the Messiah came the first time, he came not to judge but to redeem, after which the judgment of the wicked takes place according to God's time table.
Here is the other Bible passage,
So, what about it? David was glad that he did not die, got killed, when enemies where at his heels. He got `spared' one more time. But why should anyone be glad if something like an immortal soul would go to heaven at death? Well, we are glad we escape death because death is an enemy, not a friend, and we do not see God or be with God after death but rest in the grave until resurrection day, just like Jesus rested in the grave and did not go to heaven until after his resurrection.
Jesus resting in the grave is a picture for us that sees death as a span of time, a respite, though unnoticed by those who are dead, during which sin cannot afflict them. "Behold, I will gather thee to thy fathers, and thou shalt be gathered to thy grave in peace, neither shall thine eyes see all the evil that I will bring upon this place, and upon the inhabitants of the same." 2.Chronicles 34:28
The dead cannot observe the living or commiserate with them.
When Did the Thief on the Cross Arrive in Heaven?
Did Jesus and the thief on the cross meet in heaven the day Jesus died?
Setting the comma after "today" presents this meaning:
Our modern, non-ancient-Greek Bibles have a comma but the original Greek did not use commas or sentence dividers. So the comma in modern translations is added by the publishers and set according to their idea what the meaning of the sentence should be. If one believes that some sort of immortal soul goes to heaven at death, they put the comma before `today', if one believes that at death a person goes to the grave only, the comma is set after `today' where it belongs. The Hebrews did not believe that at death an immortal soul goes to heaven, the Egyptians did [2000], in time popularized in Greek philosophy.
We know Jesus died on the cross on Friday, Luke 23:39-45. We also know that the thief lingered quite a bit longer before he died (John 19:31-37). The Bible states that the two thieves were still alive when the soldiers came to break their bones just before sunset on crucifixion day. Where is heaven? We read that the tree of life is in the midst of paradise (Revelation 2:7). The tree of life is by the throne, Rev. 22:1,2. Paradise is therefore a third heaven where God is (2.Corinthians 12:1-4). We read that three days later Jesus states that he had not yet ascended to heaven to His Father
The dead shall awake, but not until when? - until Michael, Christ, shall come again in the clouds of heaven to end the reign of sin. If life with God is everlasting, why shouldn't `contempt (Hebr. der'on)', meaning `abhorrence', Isaiah 66:24, be everlasting? A parallel word for `contempt' in the OT Bible is the word `scorn' (Ps. 123:3,4), or in Arabic it is `dara (to repel)'. Daniel is not making a specific reference to the state of the dead as talked about in the New Testament. The Hebrew word for `everlasting' is not exactly synonymous with the English word `everlasting'. It can have more than one conceptual interpretation as we already showed. Therefore, we must always understand it in context. Basically the verse is better explained during NT times after Jesus provided more understanding on this topic. `Life' in hell fire is not of the same type as `life' eternal. There is an end to the former when the flames go out and no end to the latter. After witnessing the awfulness of sin during the millennia of the great struggle on earth and in the universe of heavenly beings, the inhabitants of the universe will regard sin with a feeling of strong revulsion. When the struggle is finished and God's name is fully vindicated, a mighty abhorrence of sin and of all it has contaminated will sweep through the universe. It is this abhorrence, this hating of sin, - our love of God - that makes possible the assurance that sin will never again mar the harmony of the universe.
We seem to have here an undying worm and unquenchable fire. What does that mean? In Mark 9:44-48 Jesus spoke three times, saying: "where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched." What is the `undying worm' a symbol of? Let us first observe that the `undying worm' is not a symbol of a soul which cannot die, but it is the symbol of corruption, a smelly dead body, which cannot be purged or made to smell nice and sweet.[2029]
God is a God of love and not an overseer of an eternal torture scene as some teach.
Absent from the Body and Our Tent House
Occasionally one can read also that the Bible describes our bodies as (tabernacle) "tents" in which we live (2.Pet. 1:13f). But who is `WE'? Above we showed that in Genesis the `body + breath = a living soul, a living human being. If the body gets destroyed or we stop breathing, the once living soul, the `ME' or `YOU' is dead. Dead does not mean, for a second only, and then alive again. The Hebrew concept of `soul' is a living, flesh and blood human being and not some foggy something inside of us. The dead, once living human beings, or living souls, are now in their grave. Only their memory remains and their records in heaven. We are appointed, once to die (Hebr. 9:27) - after which we are dead in the grave. Time goes by of which the dead are totally oblivious and at some point the heavenly judgment begins, Dan. 7:9,10. At the second coming of Christ He and His angels know who belongs to His heavenly family and those who are part of it shall rise from their sleep death. They had no sensation of time spent in the grave. For them it was just the twinkling of an eye before they see Jesus. When Jesus comes all those who are His, from Adam to the last person who died in Christ, will be resurrected by a shout and the sound of the trump of God - that is mass resurrection and the glorious day God's people wait for.
There is no disembodied soul of dead people in heaven. This is the error the "snake" suggested to Eve. It gives credence for Satanic agencies to appear in the guise of dead people and in such a round about way seem to have introduced the idea that animals could talk, suggesting what people should do. Such a believe, thus, opens a door for the evil one to impress his messages on people.[2035] But the Bible states that the dead are dead in their grave (`sheol, hell', the grave Ps. 49:15) and those who believe thus will not be deceived by such apparitions or appearances. The Christianity the Bible teaches is a "... doctrine, not of (natural) immortality, but of resurrection."[2050]
This is what is taught from Genesis to Revelation. See Revelation 16:3.
To reiterate once again, at death of course we stop breathing. Though before that we were a living soul made up of our God given body plus the breath. Now we become completely lifeless and our body starts decaying and the `worms' start devouring us nearly right away. The Bible states that at the time of the apostles their revered patriarch, royal father David was still in his grave, Acts 2:29.[2080] That is all of him (his dust) and there was no part of him anywhere else. At the time of the Second Coming of Jesus, the apostle Paul states:
Some preachers say, `See, God brings those believers which accepted Christ with him from heaven to be there when the dead shall be raised from their sleep.'
Hold it, hold it. Which direction is this verse talking about? Are those, which were asleep in Jesus, are they being brought from heaven to earth or are they being brought from earth to heaven? Didn't we just read, Jesus died while He was on earth, and after that He rose from the dead while still on earth, so also us humans. We die here on earth, spend time in the grave like Jesus did, then, when He wakes us up, we, who are faithful (2.Chr. 19:9-11), rise from the dead.
Well, the whole biblical context testifies to the fact that God does not bring a sleep train of snoozing saints from heaven to earth, but those that are sleeping in their grave he will raise up and take up to heaven - wide awake and in possession of their now glorified body for "... the Lord ... shall descend from heaven" accompanied by the heavenly hosts of angelic beings when He first appears, Vers 16. The death-sleep of the just resurrected on earth will seem to them just as the twinkling of an eye. There was no immortal something inside of them during their life on earth for it is only God who is immortal, 1.Tim. 6:15,16. When Jesus Christ comes as King he will come in the glory of his father and in the glory of the heavenly angels - notice no disembodied souls are mentioned - and they will take up the now resurrected faithful to God, to their heavenly home.[2100] That is why we read, "For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep." The word `prevent' here has the equivalent meaning of `precede', as this situation is continued in Vers 17 where we read, "Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air ..." - the only instance of what may be called a `rapture'.
At funerals we should hear then said, `Rest peacefully in the recesses of the earth until that glorious day of the Lord." Or as we read on another gravestone, "Here lieth the body of (name) who departed this life on (date). My life is hid with Christ in God when this my Saviour Dear does Come Again then with Him in Glory I Shall Appear." We notice this gravestone quotes the Apostle Paul where he writes:
During funerals, therefore, it should not be said, `We shall meet you on the other side,' if it means when we die we also go where you are. These reunions, according to the Bible, do not happen until the day of the second advent of Jesus Christ when He shall raise the dead from their sleep death.[2150]
Most pagans had no hope of life after death.[2152] The ancient Egyptians believed that man had an immortal soul.
To put it another way, the answer to the first question is that becoming a part of God's Heavenly Kingdom occurs at the same time for all who believe, at the day of His glorious Second Coming, no one will get there before another except those who God chose as his First Fruit.
To decide that question we must read this scripture in the context in which it was written (being an example of easily distorting its meaning when reading this verse all by itself) for the apostle Paul is explaining it himself in the previous verses.
In Verse 1 and 2 Paul expresses his hope for the future, and describes life and death in relation to eternity:
The apostle is speaking here of our present body figuratively as our "earthly tent-house" by using images of the Israelite tabernacle (Ex. 39:40). He then says, since this our body temple starts to dissolve, of course after death, we have another - an eternal one, "our house which is from heaven". This is so because true believers in Christ Jesus can look forward to eternal life with Jesus in heaven, in which we are to accumulate `treasures,' aspire to live a godly life to become citizens of God's kingdom while living in our `tent-house' body. Therefore, we earnestly desire to be clothed with this `new house (body)', for if our present house is dissolved (decayed) and we do not put on `the house' "from heaven" (our resurrection body) we shall be found naked (dead, Job 1:21), verse 3.
Paul illustrates 3 conditions:
We can see that the phrase (#1) our `earthly house' means our present, temporal, home body.
From verse 4, "For we that are in this tabernacle do groan - (#2, wishing we were already in heaven) -, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed (#3, `naked', that is dead), but clothed upon (having received the resurrection body), that mortality might be swallowed up of life."
Three stages are here presented the third of which, being `naked', is a reference to our dead body - death. In death we have neither the earthly nor the resurrection body.[2290] We have to wait for the resurrection body until Jesus comes again and raises us up from death - re-creates us, reassembles our genetic (DNA) information, and makes us whole again, Ps. 139:14-16. As our body is remade so also our mind (the `soul') starts to function again [2300]. Our `soul' is part of our body and can't fly away without it for a soul can die (Eze. 18:4; James 5:20) and animals are also spoken of as having a soul, breath of life, Gen. 7:21,22.
It is important to understand what Paul says, we do not get `our house from heaven' until resurrection day and there are only three stages, not a fourth stage in which a soul reunites with the body as immortality teachers claim. That is reading things into this verse which are not there. (For a word study on `soul' click here).
What the apostle Paul wanted most of all was to be changed from mortality to immortality without experiencing death (being unclothed). In other words he wanted for Jesus to come again in his life time - he was perhaps a bit impatient (groaning) to be with God? He wanted the experience of Enoch and Elijah when they were taken to heaven (Genesis 5:24; 2.Kings 2:11; Luke 9:35). That means, Enoch and Elijah were bodily taken into heaven, not just souls of them. But all other people, who are not taken into haven in a special resurrection or translation, those dead in the grave and those alive today, are present in heaven only by their record in the book of life or the book of remembrance, Phil. 4:3; Rev. 3:5; Mal. 3:16. But please note this observation:
If the condition between mortality and immortality had been one where his disembodied `soul' (falsely understood by many as capable of life without the body) was already in heaven in the presence of God, Paul would not have had such earnest desire to avoid dying.
Paul explained in other Bible passages, the time, when he expected immortality to be given, 1.Corinthians 15:51-53.
When studying the subject on the immortality of the soul, we need to be aware that in these words and concepts a number of unstated understandings of the time of Paul are of importance [2320], understandings of the membership of his churches from sermons he preached to them and which he does not repeat each time he touches on the subject. This is particularly relevant with respect to the wording in Phil. 1:23 and 2.Cor. 5:8:
"Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing [is] God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit. Therefore [we are] always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: (For we walk by faith, not by sight:) We are confident, [I say], and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him."
When does this, our presence with the Lord, take place?
The answer is, our presence before the Lord does not take place until after the execution phase of the judgment (execution means here, serving of the decision, eternal life). Studying all of the Bible, including the Hebrew Old Testament, understanding of what happens to us after we die [2350], as also emphasized by Jesus in Matthew 16:27 in the New, is important. We read:
"And it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment." Hebrews 9:27.
"Do not be surprised at this; the time is coming when all the dead will hear his voice and come out of their graves: those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise and be condemned." John 5:28-29, GNB.
All of God's people do not receive their reward, eternal life, until after the Second Coming according to the promise, 1.John 2:25. No one will hear the actual voice of God before then. All the just (Luke 14:14; they are pronounced just after judgment), the redeemed of the ages, will hear this voice of God at the same time. [2360]
These `understandings' of the time of Paul, that the time spent in the grave from the moment of death until the Second Coming, is as the blinking of an eye (1.Cor. 15:52- Note: The dead are raised, reassembled to be living individuals, as only God can do it - implying that up to this moment they were not alive, anywhere!) and the biblical usage of the words `soul' and/ or `spirit' as a complete, living human being, are key issues on the doctrine of the state of the dead. Until the day of the general resurrection the dead are in the grave, their bodies are decayed, turned to dust (Job 34:15), awaiting their resurrection at the last trumpet. Not until their resurrection will they put on incorruption and immortality, but until then they rest in the grave just like Jesus did after He died on the cross.
So we can tell that Philippians chapter 1 is not a dogmatic statement but contains understandings not spelled out in detail in this scripture. We must consult all of what the NT and often also what the OT has to say about what happens to us after death. Then it will not be too hard to conclude that when man dies he is 100% dead. Jesus and all His teachers taught that death is unconscious `sleep', non-existence anywhere, until resurrection day. - Please remember, at the Second Coming when the trumpet, God's wake up call, sounds, only the redeemed will be resurrected. All others will not be alive until after the 1000 years, the Millennium.
At this point we also should show how the sanctuary teaches the biblical truth that immortality comes only through trusting faith in Jesus Christ. How is that related to the sanctuary? This divinely given truth was visualized for all of Israel through Aaron's almond rod. This stick was cut off from an almond tree and became dead wood, a picture of Christ after the Cross. It was then placed inside the Ark of the Covenant in the Most Holy where it greened and budded. That is why we read, "And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all; which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant." Hebr. 9:3.
In Revelation we find out the meaning,
"And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death." Rev. 1:17,18, because Jesus resurrected from `hades', an old Greek term for grave.
It says Jesus was dead, not alive somewhere else. Since Christ's sacrifice on the Cross was accepted of God, Christ had victory over death, the grave, and Satan. Christ holds the `keys of hell and death' with which he will unlock the grave for all people in two resurrections. "... there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust." Acts 24:15b. You and I, we want to be part of the first resurrection.
Note: It would be very instructive to study Matthew 27:52-53 on this subject.
This scripture relating to us a special resurrection, reflects the truth about what happens to us at death and where the dead are as few other scriptures do. There is no sign of an immortal something in this account. These resurrected people "slept" in their tombs. In other words, no part of them existed elsewhere separated from the body. The evil "snake" said that lie, `Ye shall not surely die', Gen.3:4.
What about those who put the idea of anthropomorphism in this passage of the `The Rich Man and Lazarus', Luke 16:19-31?
In fact the Bible states that the rich man lost his soul for we read:
This scripture we may continue with the words, "For the Son of man shall come in the glory of His Father with His angels; and then He shall reward every man according to his works." Matth. 16:27 As we are told here, our reward does not occur at the time of death but on the day of His Second Coming - the day poor Lazarus would be received into heaven by Jesus and His holy angels and eat freely from the Tree of Life by the River of Life as it were, sitting in the bosom of plenty of Abraham, Rev. 22:1-2,17. While poor Lazarus, now rich in being blessed to be among the redeemed in heaven, may be understood as a type for those who accepted Christ; the Rich Man, who was spiritually poor, according to the Bible, would not be resurrected until after the Millennium in the Second resurrection. The impenetrable chasm separating these, exists for all of those, who chose not to accept Christ as their personal Savior. That in Hebrew beliefs `the soul' is also equated with `life' we have already shown above.
One of the main arguments for the notion that disembodied human souls arrive in heaven is this parable of the Rich Man and Poor Lazarus. In this simile, Jesus taught not to trade your eternal life for fame in this short life on earth. The immortality believers explain the parable by saying that the rich man and poor Lazarus are not in heaven in their resurrection body but in the `spirit' body (anthropomorphism). But we know, man is not a spirit like angels, a different order of life, (Ps. 8:5). Even of Christ when born in His human form it is said that Jesus "was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death" (Hebr. 2:9). Only after resurrection it is said of man "For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven," (Mark 12:25). This argument that man has or is a `spirit' (inside) we have already shown to be untrue by the word study above on how the Bible uses these words `spirit' and `soul'.
With the idea of anthropomorphism a plethora of doctrines could be upheld which the Bible never intended to teach. Where do we stop to apply anthropomorphism? It is not a biblically ordained method of interpretation but is used to proof what they can't proof without using such ideas. There is no reason not to believe that Moses and Elias (Jude 9; Lk. 9:30) were bodily taken up into heaven as a `first fruit' just like Jesus was and thus could appear to Jesus in the Garden before the sufferings and the death of Jesus on the cross for his encouragement. For who is God that he should do something in vagueness and in secret? Not so. God does not split people into bodies and ghosts, pagans did that.
Those who view the New Testament to teach that the expressions, "body and soul" and "body, soul, and spirit" indicate that man is composed of three divisible components, and that at least one of them is immortal, should consider this:
What about the following scriptures?
"The soul is delivered up to death ... whereupon it leaves the realm of earth and lives on in Hades . . . or some other place outside the earth . . ."
Another point made sometimes is Matthew 25:46 where we read,
When does that take place? On the day of Christ's Second Coming the righteous are raised from the dead to receive eternal life. Those who are not written in the book of life, but alive on that day, perish and all those who do not ascend with Christ on this day to heaven are dead, awaiting the second resurrection after the Millennium to be judged and punished then.
Jesus is saying, the powers which can harm life would never affect the souls (minds) of the Apostles, which His own resurrection proved. The body can be injured without the consent of the soul because as one suffers he can still think, but the soul cannot experience pain without the body being still alive. Therefore, the only thing to fear is losing, not our human life, but the life with God after resurrection day.
What about the robe-clad souls in the Book of Revelation?
In order for us to get the whole picture, lets read on
We believe, to all these questions satisfactory answers can be found in the Word of God.
1. Answer:
Like the seals before this fifth seal, they have historically been understood to cover a period of time. The first was seen to approximate the period of the first church, Ephesus, the triumph of the gospel, Rev. 5:13. The second was understood to cover the period during which the pure gospel was being corrupted and persecution ensued. The third seal was interpreted to mean `settling spiritual darkness.' The taking away of Bible based faith, moral corruption and the rise of superstitions which we cover here. The fourth seal covers the period of church history where the blood of martyrs flowed freely. The fifth seal covers the period during which the persecuting power started to be restrained; the effect, we know from history, which was caused by the Protestant Reformation.
2.- 5. Answers:
The souls under the altar are popularly being regarded as strong proof that disembodied spirits exist and that the dead have consciousness. Those, who teach this, point to the souls seen by the apostle John in a disembodied state, and yet they had knowledge of passing events, for they cried for vengeance on their prosecutors.
This view is, however, inadmissible for several reasons.
a) The popular view places these souls in heaven, but the altar of sacrifice on which they were slain cannot be in heaven. The only altar we read about in Revelation as being in heaven is the altar of incense, Rev.8:3f. It would not be correct to place these just slain victims under the altar of incense since that altar was never devoted to such a use. In addition, it is a repugnant thought to entertain the idea that in heaven souls of bloody victims of persecutions are shut up under an altar. How can we fathom the thought that in heaven, the place of joy and glory, such a state of existence should be found?
b) But we must examine these verses further. The popular view which places these souls in heaven, puts the wicked at the same time in the lake of fire, writhing in unutterable (mental) torment or anguish, in full view of the heavenly host. It seems logical, that the souls under the altar are those who had been slain during the period of the fourth seal - for scores of years - and most of them centuries before. There is hardly a question that their persecutors had all passed off the stage of action, and, according to the doctrine of hell fire, were being tormented and made to suffer right there - before the eyes of the souls under the altar - if we remember how those who interpret these things as real - present the parable of the `Rich Man and Poor Lazarus'. Dr. Martin Luther attacked as "rubbish" the notion that one can tear off a part of man and say, "It lives."[2380] But these souls under the altar are represented as if they cry to God as though He was delaying vengeance on their murderers. What greater vengeance could they want? If they thought that their persecutors were still alive on earth, they must have known (since some say they can think) that in a few years at most, these wicked would join the vast multitude of those suffering in hell.
Therefore, the popular doctrine on the condition of the dead cannot be correct, or their interpretation of these verses is not correct, for they are mutually exclusive.
c) But it is urged on seekers of truth that these souls must be conscious, for they cry to God. This argument may be valid, if we could find such a figure of speech as `personification' elsewhere in the Bible. Please be reminded that the blood of Abel is represented to have cried to God from the ground, Gen. 4:9-10. The stone cried out of the wall, and the beam out of the timber answered, Habakkuk 2:11. The hire of the laborers kept back by fraud cried, and the cry enters the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth, James 5:4.
Conclusion: Therefore, while the souls under the altar could `cry', does that not proof consciousness after death.[2400]
The word `soul' means a complete, living human being and is not infrequently translated as `person' as a look in Young's Concordance will demonstrate under "person, nephesh", with quotes from Gen. 14:21; Num. 25:30; Jer. 43:6; Ez. 16:5, etc. demonstrate.
6. Answer to `Their white robes and when do they rest for a little season?'
These persecutions took place largely in the old world, Europe. But they also followed into those areas of the world where members of this persecuting power journeyed to. While the reformation slowed their terrible work, it did not altogether stop it as the events in the awful `Bartholomews Massacre' showed. Besides the events of that night, multitudes suffered death in various other places. They themselves, over those long centuries, had come out of the ranks of their persecutors, persuaded by the Bible to follow the Lord in keeping His commandments and His doctrines. Their lives had been misrepresented, their reputations tarnished, their names defamed, their motives maligned, and their graves covered with shame and reproach, as containing the dishonored dust of the most vile and despicable characters. This way the persecuting power which then molded the sentiment of the principal nations on earth, spared no pains to make her victims an abhorrence to all people.
But the Protestant Reformation began its work.
The full vindication of their cause was delayed for a season. But the spirit of persecution was finally restrained, the cause of the martyrs vindicated, and the "little season" of the fifth seal came to a close.[2450]
What about the spirits in prison?
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What about John 10:27-28? "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." John 10:27-28. Doesn't this scripture indicate that man has eternal life, he shall never perish and that death is the release of the soul? What stands in the way that after death we shall be with God? Answer: The eternal life which God gives is a promise as long as we live in this world. On the day of the Second Coming of Jesus in Glory, the promise becomes reality. Because the person who is granted eternal life has passed successfully through judgment, to the verdict of which all participants agreed, his eternity is secure. Only by their sins having been forgiven by the grace of God can His brightness be a benevolent light to His people, 1.John 1-5. |
In the words of Jesus himself, He said, the dead are really dead. "Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead." John 11:14. Elsewhere Jesus underscores that the dead shall rise when He returns as king in might and power. Jesus never speaks of a soul existing apart from the body, "Then come ... the Sadducees, which say there is no resurrection; and they asked him, saying, `Master, Moses wrote ... If a man's brother die, and leave his wife behind him ... last of all the woman died also. ... In the resurrection therefore, when they shall rise, whose wife shall she be of them? And Jesus answering said ... Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God? For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven. ...
He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err." Mark 12:18-27. Man, after death, has not another existence waiting for him as a `spirit' being like the angels. This won't come about until the Second Coming, Mark 12:25, when all God's creatures have eternal life. Christians know that there is a different relationship between God and the person who accepts His love and His will then there is between God and one who rejects him, Acts 17:28-29. Jesus made a son-ship possible, Jhn. 1:12; Ro. 8:14-16; Gal. 4:1-7. This relationship is made possible by the new birth - a spiritual rather than a physical experience, Jhn. 1:13. |
| In the following section we classify roughly three groups of texts: |
| Group I: those texts that reveal characteristics of God in relation to the believer | Group II: those texts showing spiritual relationships | Group III: those texts showing specific promises |
Matth. 6:4:
"That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which sees in secret himself shall reward thee openly." "... your Father knows what things you have need of, before we ask him."
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John 10:25-29:
"I told you and you believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. ... ye believe not ... ye are not of my sheep ... My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand, My Father which gave them me, is greater than all ..."
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John 14:22-23:
"Judas (not Iscariot) said unto him: `Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?' Jesus said ...: If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and make our abode with him."
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The critical question is this: When does this togetherness with God Father alluded to in John 10 take place? Those who argue for man's soul going to heaven right after death will view these texts as meaning this togetherness takes place right after death. Those who argue for sleep death in the grave until the resurrection at the Second Coming understand that this togetherness happens after that event. So what is the difference? The Bible teaches that before man gets into heaven, receives eternal life, there will be a judgment, Hebrews 9:27. This text underscores the much misunderstood theology that no soul wings its way into heaven before it passes judgment. We explained the pertinent scripture (2.Cor. 5:5-12) already above. One explanation we may add at this point is this: People do not become `sheep', true followers of Jesus Christ, until they hear his voice. That voice knows each sheep by name and knows each sheep in the fold. No wolf dressed in sheep clothing will be among them. They have already been examined, judged, and found to be worthy to be counted among the sheep. While the idea of `judgment' is not stated in John 10, the application can be derived. This is what Job affirms:
"So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens [be] no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep." Job 14:12 There is no such thing as a soul going to heaven at death and then, on top of that, a resurrection where that soul comes down to reunite with the body. Such a doctrine is nowhere found in the Bible and just conjecture and forced interpretation to justify the erroneous belief in the immortality of the soul. Something on the lighter side. Little Joe asks his dad, `Where did grandpa go?' Dad replies, `He went to heaven.' Little Joe thinks for a moment, then asks, `Why did Jesus raise Lazarus, the little girl and why did he save the three friends of Daniel? Wouldn't they rather have gone to heaven then live through a fire and live through more years of work and hardship?' Dad, surprised, says, `Well, I don' know, I don' know.' Yeah, Lazarus and the little girl certainly had nothing to say about their short stay in heaven. What about praying for the dead? For some the question may come up that an individual is invited to attend a memorial service in which those who passed away are to be honored for their achievements and services. Should God's people attend such services which often are candle light event type services or participate in them? - While we keep our dead in loving memory, we do not live for the past but for the present and must prepare for the future. To pray for the dead is forbidden in the Bible. We read, "Weep ye not for the dead . . .", Jer. 22:10; Eze. 24:17, in other words, if we do we are involved in spiritualistic services which are forbidden by God. If God is a God of Love, Why is there so much suffering? When God created the world in six days, He saw that it was good (Gen. 1:25). Then He said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let him have dominion over . . . the creation" (V. 26). So we learn here that man was made in the image of God. That must mean, man is a free moral agent (see here who hates that). He can choose his own course without interference from anything. So are all intelligent creatures of God. They all are free moral agents. Lucifer, too, was a free moral agent but sin was first found in his heart. Sin is a deadly, malicious poison. We see it today. Sin does not like to see people live in peace, it wants to destroy, cause pain and death. Yes, you say, but God created Lucifer and therefore sin, you know . . . therefore, it is God's fault. Sure, God created Lucifer and everything. So think of what this complaint says. It wants God to act like Lucifer, kill everyone. [Click here to read the important study on the Origin of Evil which is also quite instructive once you get going on a quiet day.] That is impossible, God has already arranged everything to save everyone, because Christ died on the cross for all. He died for all people of all ages, 2. Cor. 5:14,15; 2.Tim. 2:5,6; but salvation is offered under a condition - our free choice - as you learn when reading on. So what then is the problem? Why does He not end sin, death and all that suffering? But He is ending it, right now, He is working to end it and in the process rescue for salvation the maximum number of people possible. Salvation is a choice. We can have it. We can also reject it. Today, there are so many who reject, that God cannot hold back the consequences of their rejection any longer. Death, Satan, seeks now to destroy them all. Satan knows His own span of existence is running out and he is very angry (1.Pet. 5:8) and wants to take as many with himself into death as he can. That is what we see happening all around us. It is causing suffering in all of God's creation. Salvation, true promised riches, can come only through faith in God and Jesus Christ whom He sent to save us. The world we live in is Satan's ground where he will make his last stand. That is why our world is dying before our eyes. Unless we know that, we have difficulty coping with what is going to come our way. Now as never before we must learn quickly, by faith, to depend on the power of God. His Word says, `Why do you want to die?' Why don't you choose Him instead? To make the influence of wickedness just a little smaller, believers are to help spread the gospel of salvation. God wants everyone to know that in difficult times we are not called to see the world through other people, but to see people through them by aiding and helping in spiritual matters in particular, as we wait upon the Lord.
How are we to deal with out-of-body experiences? The above gives you the main points on the state of the dead. When a person claims reincarnate experiences, we believe in such cases it would be helpful to find out if the person is on medication or chemicals without trying to be too nosy. The fact is that some types of medications can be the cause of vivid dreams or imaginations. If not, then influence of ET spirit mediums ought to be considered or both.
"Stop my friend, as you go by, A passerby wrote underneath
"To follow you, I'm not content,
What we see happening today is that the line of distinction between professed Christians and the ungodly is now hardly distinguishable. Church-members love what the world loves, and Satan determines to unite them in one body, and thus strengthen his cause by sweeping all into the ranks of Spiritualism. When Christians cast away the shield of truth they will easily be deceived and accept a form of godliness without the power. As one studies the history of the Christian church, he cannot help but see the destructive results of unraveling even one thread (one doctrine) of the coherent fabric of truth. The inner consistency of truth is one mark of its authenticity. When a person takes one doctrinefor instance, the nature of man and imposes upon it an unscriptural definition such as the immortal soul notion, other doctrines are affected in some way. When one removes conditionality from the plan of salvation, human responsibility is diminished and the sovereignty of God is misunderstood. Truth is not the sum of paradoxes. Truth is a union of harmonious components. Its components interconnect in such a way that when one part is removed, something serious is missing because of that incompleteness. Truth is a wholeand it changes people as they respond in regard to it. The Spirit of God has a work to do within us to change us and prepare us for heaven; this is not an optional work. Truth has been given to meet our emergency and our necessity; while truth alone does not save us, it plays a crucial role in the inward motivations and attitudes that cause us to be saved by grace through faith. We are changed by beholding, and so when we behold only a part of God's truth, we are only changed in partand that part, being isolated, means the change is distorted. Distorted people present a distorted picture of God. A distorted picture of God lengthens the great controversy by lending the appearance of credence to Satan's claims about God. The Great Controversy Theme (Jer. 25:31; Eze. 44:24; 1.Tim. 3:16) ties together the plan of redemption, Bible truth, and the peril and triumph of Jesus' entry into humanity and His death upon the cross. It holds together Christ's death for us with the application of His power within us. It shows why God purposes to demonstrate through His end-time people the ultimate fruition of what His amazing grace can do, and clarifies how Satan's charges will be finally negated. At the end of time God has called a people to understand, live out, and present to the universe God's love through our individual opportunities in the climax of the great controversy. [3000] We brought together some reasons why the Champions stated that they could find no reason for the believe that at death people go to heaven or hell. They believed immortality is a gift God bestows when Christ Comes again in might and power and those written in the Book of Life are raised from death, the state in which they were from the moment of dying, on that great future day. Example of a Bible Study on the subject How would you react if someone handed you the telephone and the voice at the other end was that of your mother who had died and was buried just six weeks before? Would you believe your mother could speak to you now? Or would you be positive that, no, she rests in her grave? When a person dies, is that person really dead? We may have heard the saying, `Dead men tell no tales', but do they? Millions of people believe they are in touch with the dead. Government officials all over the world seek counsel from those who supposedly communicate with the dead. Is this a gigantic hoax? Or is it one of the greatest blessings we have in this world today? The lives of people and governments are at stake the world over. Even more sobering, your own life and future could be in jeopardy. There is no defense for guess work when results can be so far reaching and final. We must obtain the facts. Thank God, Jesus, the Star of the drama in Revelation, has the answers. He was dead, but is now alive forevermore. Every person ever raised from the dead has been raised by Him, and He will soon gloriously raise millions on the day of his appearing, 2.Tim. 4:8. He knows all these answers, in fact, he holds in his hands the keys of death. Prepare for some surprises as we review His Word on this most important subject. Fill in the blanks! |
The Character of God and the Destruction of the Wicked |
| Champions of Immortality | 1. | Revelation 1:18 refers to Jesus as "He that lives, and was dead." What does he have in his hand? |
Answer: _____________________________________ |
| Note: Thank God! Jesus has the keys, or answers, to the mysterious questions and problems regarding death. And since He, only, has the answers, we must go to His Word for information. No other source is reliable. |
| 2. | What was Jesus called in Revelation 1:5? |
Answer: "The ___begotten of the ______________ |
| Note: Jesus was the first begotten of or from the dead in the same sense that He was "slain from the foundation of the world". He was also "first" from the standpoint of pre-eminence, or importance. His resurrection was "first" in the same sense that the president's wife is "first" lady. |
| 3. | Why is Jesus' resurrection so important to me as a person? 1.Corinthians 15:20-22 | Answer: "Even so in___shall__be made____." |
| Note: His resurrection is important to you and me because His resurrection has made all other resurrections possible. |
| 4. | How did God create man in the beginning? Genesis 2:7 | Answer: "______man of the_____of the_______and_______into his_______the_______of______." |
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| 5. | What happens at death, according to the Scripture? Ecclesiastes 12:7 | Answer: "Then shall the_____ ______ to the______as it was: and the______shall______unto_____who gave it." |
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Note: Two things happen at death: the body returns to dust and the spirit returns to God. The `spirit' is not something alive, it is the character, our thinking mind, the quality of life, the self-identity of the deceased which is on record in heaven as we shall see. See Luke 8:52-55; James 2:26; Psalm 104:29. Please note, when Jesus resurrected this girl (Luke 8), He did not only give her the breath of life back, but also her personality, character or self-identity which are preserved in the heavenly records. Her thoughts picked up where they were, when she died. That is why Jesus said to give her food, because before she died she was hungry, verse 55. - Also Stephen asked, to have his (my) spirit, his life experiences, personality returned to him on resurrection day, Acts 7:59. - Jesus too, did He say, `Into thy hands I commend the spirit? No! Not `the spirit,' He said into thy hands I commend my spirit. When Jesus resurrected, it was the same Jesus who died. He remembered everything from before He died, and his disciples saw and experienced Him as the same person He was before. - Therefore, God's people resurrect to eternal life when Christ comes again. Conversely and sadly so, the wicked, when they are resurrected, will then be just as wicked as before for in death they experienced no change. That is why `character' is so important since it is the only thing we take into heaven. - Question: The short film of John F. Kennedy, when he was assassinated, was he then dead or alive? - Answer: The film starts out with him alive, but when you were watching it, he was dead. That is how God keeps records of everyone in heaven. |
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If the spirit means "life", how should we understand Eccl. 3:19-21? "For that which befalls the sons of men befalls beasts; even one thing befalls them: as the one dies, so dies the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man has no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity. All go to the same place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again. Who knows the spirit of man that goes upward, and the spirit of the beast that goes downward to the earth?" | Answer: We should read verse 21 in context with verses 19,20. Then we realize that "spirit" here means simply `breath.' Verse 21 is a rhetorical question. It has a question mark. Stated differently the question may be expressed as, `Is there anyone who has seen the spirit/breath of man go up and the beasts spirit going down?' What is the anticipated answer? The anticipated answer, based on verses 19 and 20 is, that, no, no one has seen the spirit going up or down. They just go all to the same place. They just disappear (in their grave) and are gone. |
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| 7. | What did Jesus say is the condition the dead are in? John 11:14. | Answer: "Then said Jesus unto them plainly, ___________ is______." |
| Note: This scripture says it all from the highest authority in the universe, `The dead are really dead!' Thus the Bible teaches that between death and resurrection, the dead sleep in their grave. |
| 8. | What is the `spirit' which returns to God at death? James 2:26; Psalm 104:29. | Answer: _______________________ |
| Note: To say it with words we can understand today: The `spirit' or `breath' which returns to God is the essence of the living, feeling human being, his or her cellular existence - the complete information contained in the genetic, chemical code. It `returns' not as a substance but when a person dies, that person knows by faith that God has this genetic code on file and can recreate him or her on that great day of the Lord (Ps. 104:30) by infusing once again the spark of life which only God can give. Thus the character, the self identity, is restored again at the Resurrection. |
| 9. | What happened when God placed the breath of life in man's nostrils at creation? Genesis 2:7 | Answer: "Man________a__________living______." |
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Note: God formed man of the dust and made a body. He then combined breath with this body and man became a living soul. Therefore, the Bible definition for "soul" is: Body + Breath = Soul. A living, breathing being is a soul. The Bible, in this text, is saying that we are souls! The truth is we do not have souls, but we are souls. You are your spirit. How else is that proven by the Bible? When Stephen was stoned to death, what was his last prayer? "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit." Acts 7:59. When Jesus died on the cross, what was His last prayer? "Father into thy hands I commend my spirit." Luke 23:46. When Jesus resurrected, was he the same Jesus who died? Yes! The disciples recognized him and his voice, Mark 16:9-14; Luke 24:36-43. In the mind of Hebrew or Aramaic speaking people the soul is a complete, flesh and blood human being. Stating it this way ought to bring conviction on this subject that the notion of an immortal soul is not taught in the Bible. |
| 10. | Do souls die? Ezekiel 18:4,20 | Answer: "The soul that sinneth it shall________." |
| Note: Strangely, the Bible does not agree with the widely used term "undying soul". Rather, the opposite, the soul can die, James 5:20, and go into the grave, Isaiah 38:17. Scripture teaches that the soul has a very short life. |
| 11. | At death, the body returns to dust, and the breath (spirit) returns to God. What happens to the soul? Where does it go? Psalm 104:29,30; Job 34:15. | Answer: The soul goes nowhere. It simply_______to exist, but the character identity is on record in the heavenly record book. |
| Notes: At death we simply cease to exist, except we are recorded in heaven's ledger. Please be reminded that the Hebrew word for `breath' is the same word translated as `spirit'. The Bible does not present `breath/spirit' as capable of living apart from the body except in allegory to illustrate some other message, the `Rich Man and Poor Lazarus', an allegory which does not use the word `breath', `spirit' or `soul', but only the word `died'. Lazarus, when resurrected by Jesus, was not called down from heaven, but forth from the grave. And the cemeteries of the world is where Christ finds the saved at His Coming, Jhn. 5:28-29; Luke 14:14. |
| 12. | Jesus and Job both tell us where the bodies of the dead are. Where are they? Job 21:32; John 5:28,29 | Answer: _________________________ |
| Note: They are not in heaven or hell, but rather in their graves. On the day of Pentecost, Peter said that David was in his grave and had not gone to heaven. Acts 2:29,34. But the Scriptures clearly teach, Hebrews 11:32, that David will be saved in God's Kingdom. David is not yet in heaven because God's plan is that the dead wait in their graves until Jesus returns and resurrects them, Hebrews 11:39-40. |
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What of us is missing in heaven? Numb. 11:6; Ps. 49:17; Ecc. 5:15;7:14. What of us is put on record in heaven? Nehemiah 6:19; Ezra 9:13; Romans 2:6. |
Answer: ________________ at all! Answer: Our ________ deeds and our ______ deeds. |
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| 14. | Can dead people think? Psalm 146:4 | Answer: _________________ |
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| 15. | Do dead people know what their loved ones on earth are doing? Job 14:12,21 | Answer:__________________ |
| Note: The following Scripture passages are very specific: Job 7:9,10 - The dead can't go back and haunt their houses.; Psalm 6:5 - The dead do not remember or give thanks.; Isaiah 38:18,19 - The dead can't learn truth.; Psalm 115:17 - The dead do not praise the Lord. |
| 16. | In death, doesn't some part of man know something? Ecclesiastes 9:5, 6,10 | Answer: "The_______know not___________." |
| Note: Words could not be coupled together in a sentence to be more understandable, "the dead know not anything." The passage says the dead do not love, hate or envy. They have no wisdom or knowledge. They do not work and they are in no way involved with anything that is under the sun. They cannot contact the living. |
| Resurrection from Death |
| 17. | When will the righteous dead, who are now in their graves, be raised? 1.Corinthians 15:20,23; 1.Thessalonians 4:15-17; Isa. 26:19; Ps. 17:15. |
Answer: At the coming of ________________ "What man is he that liveth, and shall not see death? shall he ________ _____ _______ from the hand of _____ ___________ ." Ps. 89:48. "For thou wilt not leave my ________ ___ _________; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to ______ _____________." Ps. 16:10. The Apostle Peter quoted this last text and applied it to Christ in Acts 2:31. He declared it could not apply to David, because "he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day." (v.29) He declared also that "David ____ ______ ascended into the heavens." (v. 34) This proves that unless a man is resurrected from the dead, his soul will be left in hell (Hades - the grave). Nearly a thousand years after David died, Peter declared he had not yet ascended to heaven. |
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| Notes: Psalm 116, what does it mean? It means God's people are precious to God because of the character they developed before they died, - which heaven judges in the (investigative) Judgment (Rev. 20:11,12), based on the records in the books of heaven, that they are candidates for citizenship in heaven, while those whose names are not in the book of life, die the eternal death. |
| 19. | Do people have immortality now? 1.Timothy 6:15,16 | Answer: __________________ |
| Note: Man is mortal or subject to death. Job 4:17. Only God has immortality. |
| 20. | When will God's people receive immortality? 1.Corinthians 15:51-55 | Answer: When they are_____________at Jesus' __________________ . |
| Note: Jesus will give immortality to His people as a free gift, when they are translated at His second coming. Until then, no one but God has immortality. Immortality means not subject to death, Luke 20:35,36. It is this last scripture which contains the title which the redeemed will have in heaven, they will be known as the "children of the resurrection." The concept of the undying, immortal soul of man, so often spoken of at funerals today, is contrary to the Bible. Scripture cannot be found to support it, because the Bible teaches just the opposite. It is Satan's plan to nullify Jesus' wonderful promise to give immortality at the resurrection by claiming that men already have it. - The `immortality' of the redeemed requires the eating of the fruit of the `Tree of Life' in the earth made new, Rev. 22:2. God's original plan for man living forever on earth as he had intended for Adam and Eve will come true now for it was pronounced "very good," Gen. 1:31, for God's people shall "inherit the earth", Ps. 25:13; 37:11,22; Matth. 5:5. That must mean the earth made new like it was originally intended. Satan and all evil angels are no more and life eternal will be our experience. |
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"I am the resurrection, and the life; he that believes in Me, though he were dead, yet shall he live." John 11:25 What is the message of this scripture? | Answer: _______________ |
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Notes: God has turned death, that would have been eternal, into a little time of sleep, from which He will awaken the believer. Therefore, it is not that something immortal puts on immortality; but "this mortal" (1.Cor. 15:52) shall put on immortality. Paul taught, there is no life after death, safe by the resurrection, "If there be no resurrection of the dead, ... then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ perished." 1.Cor. 15:13-18. Note also this scripture: "This is the will of Him that sent Me, that every one which sees the Son, and believes on Him, may have eternal life: and I will raise him up at the last day." John 6:40. That is why the Second Coming of Christ has been the "blessed hope" of all the ages. All the faithful of all ages are going into the kingdom together as a mighty throng. This blessed truth appeals to the spirit that loves to wait and share joys and good things with the saints of the ages and with loved ones. The poet Horatius Bonar wrote this song: "Softly within that peaceful resting place we lay their wearied limbs, and bid the clay press lightly on them till the night be past, and the far east give note of coming day. The cloud is heard, the Archangel's voice goes forth; the trumpet sounds, the dead awake and sing; the living put on glory; one glad band, they hasten up to meet their coming King." |
| 22. | God's people do not have immortality now, but, do they have eternal life? 1.John 5:12; John 6:54 | Answer: _______________ |
| Notes: We may think of it this way, when we hold an apple seed in our hand, in a way we hold the (potential) apple tree in our hand. God's word frequently overlooks the time we spend in the grave. |
| Satan's Hoax about Death |
| 23. | What lie about death did Satan tell Eve in the Garden of Eden? Genesis 3:4 | Answer: "______shall_______surely________ ." |
| Note: Contrary to God's word, Satan said that death is not a fact. "You won't really die, if you disobey" is what he was saying to Eve. |
| 24. | Why did Satan want people to believe that the dead are alive and can be contacted? Revelation 16:14; 2.Thessalonians 2:9; Revelation 13:13,14. | Answer: So his angels can pose as spirits of the______and_________people. |
| Note: Satan wants people to believe that the dead can be contacted so he can send his angels to pose as the spirits of the dead, and thus deceive them. 1 Samuel 28:7-25 (A lesson for us to avoid: Saul goes to contact a familiar spirit). His masterful delusions will deceive all but the very elect, Matthew 24:24. Notice that these evil angels also deceive the "kings of the earth", Revelation 16:13,14. |
| 25. | Fallen Christendom is referred to as Babylon in Revelation. What does God say is largely responsible for its fall? Revelation 18:2,4,5 | Answer: "Babylon is______.... is become the habitation of_______and the hold of every foul____________________." |
| Note: Christendom is falling because Satan has gained access to the churches through his falsehood that the dead are alive. In all too many cases, messages from Satan's emissaries, who pose as spirits of the dead, are welcomed as marvelous counsel to the churches from the redeemed in glory. This gives Satan full power to deceive, and he makes every contact count. No wonder the apostle Paul so solemnly warned against such deception in 1.Timothy 4:1,2. |
| 26. | According to Revelation, these same evil angels, posing as spirits of the dead, approach the kings and leaders of earth. What is the result? Revelation 16:13,14; 18:23 |
Answer: a) Revelation 18:23 "By thy__________were____nations________." Answer: b) Revelation 16:14 "______them to the_______ of that great_____of_____Almighty." |
| Note: These angels, claiming to be the spirits of the dead, will be the powers which will influence the rulers of the nations of the world and lead them into that final battle of Armageddon, which will end in their total destruction. Tragically, leaders of many nations today, consult with those who claim to receive messages from the dead before deciding any important issue. No wonder this planet is in such disarray. Satan, himself, is being given access to call the signals. |
| An Important Test |
| 27. | From what sources, only, should I receive my information on the subject of death? Isaiah 8:19,20 |
Answer: a) "Should not a people seek unto their_______"? Answer: b) "If they speak not according to this_______it is because there is no_______in them." |
| Note: This passage plainly states that we must refuse to listen to those who claim to speak for the dead and, instead, obtain our information from God's Word only. Messages, which supposedly come from the dead loved ones, are never from these loved ones, but, rather, from Satan. That is a sobering thought! |
| 28. | Revelation says those who obey God will enter His Kingdom. Who will be among those shut out? Revelation 22:15 | Answer: "For without are dogs, and___________and whoremongers and murderers and idolators." The 6th commandment also forbids selfmurder, suicide. Yes. |
| Note: Those who consult the dead (sorcerers) will be shut out of heaven. In Moses' day of the theocracy, God commanded that such be stoned. Leviticus 20:6,27, because it represents direct Satanic influences. |
| 29. | Witchcraft, which claims to contact the dead, is called, in the Bible, one of the works of the flesh for which people will be shut out of God's Kingdom. How should I relate to it? Galatians 5:19-21; Ephesians 5:11. | Answer: "Have no___________with the unfruitful________of darkness, but rather________them." |
| Note: I should stay as far away as possible from anything that in any way resembles witchcraft. Presumed contact with the dead is virtually always contact with Satanic forces. |
| 30. | Why are the godly dead called blessed in Revelation 14:13? | Answer: "They may_______from their__________". |
| Note: Notice the prophet does not say that they simply transferred their labors to heaven. No, their work is done. Ecclesiastes 9:10 also says clearly that the reason all work ceases at death is because there is no work in the grave where man goes at death. Man simply "sleeps" in the grave until the resurrection. |
| 31. | What finally happens to the terrible curse of death? Revelation 20:14 | Answer: "It is cast into the________of fire." |
| Note: Death ends in the fire. "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain, for the former things are passed away." Revelation 21:4 The Apostle Peter testifies to the fact that even the evil angels are "reserved unto judgment" and "The Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished." 2.Pet. 2:4,9. They are reserved to receive their punishment in a future time. They are not now being punished. |
| 32. | Read again the great passage of scripture on Jesus' return and the resurrection found in 1.Thessalonians 4:16-18. What does verse 18 say these words should bring us? | Answer: "___________one another with these words." |
| Note: The Bible emphasis is not on an immortal soul winging its way to heaven at death, as many have thought. The scriptures do not focus on individual death as a means to go to heaven. Death is not a comfort. The focus of scripture is always on the second coming of Jesus and the resurrections as the source of comfort, 1.Corinthians 15:12-26. Because He rose again, all who sleep in Him will rise again. What a blessed comfort indeed! |
| 33. | What inconceivably great power is promised to God's people today? Philippians 3:10 | Answer: "That I may know him, and the__________of His_______________. . . ." |
| 34. | Here is a loaded question. How many have truly died sofar? | Answer: ___________ |
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Notes: ____________________ Only one has truly died so far. Jesus. Why would we say that? Because the death we all die, is called a sleep in the Bible. "Death" truly, is the second death from which there is no resurrection. When Jesus died on the Cross, He died the second death (Rev. 1:18; 20:14), but because He was without sin, the second death could not hold Him in the grave, and He resurrected. That is what Jesus had feared so much in Gethsemane, for He could not see His way through if all He did was accepted of His Father in Heaven. - Jesus, therefore, is the only one who truly died up to now. Not until after the wicked are judged will that number increase. |
| 35. | Will you accept Jesus' offer to give you this resurrection power for victory in your life today? | Answer: ___________ |
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Notes: ____________________ Has this study answered your questions? Are there any sincere doubts left? Please contact us with a brief note if their remains anything to be further explained. |
| [105] Pro Immortality | Contra Immortality |
| Satan, Genesis 3:4, contradicts God, Genesis 2:17. | God teaches the truth, Ecclesiastes 9:5,6,10. |
| The pagans fall into false teachings of: ancestor worship, cultic ceremonies for the dead, human sacrifices and construction of eternal abodes like the pyramids and mummifying the dead. It leads also to the worship of relics - body parts, pieces of items, etc. | The Jews know that they must wait till the end of the world before they stand up from their death sleep to see God, Daniel 12:13. |
| The Greeks as voiced in the words attributed to Plato and Aristotle believed: the body is the confining container of the soul, death is the release out of this confinement. They thought "the soul is a body within a body, composed of fine particles spread all through the structure, most like wind with an admixture of heat." [Greece and the Helenistic World, Oxford, 1988, p. 369.] | Same as above. But Plato and Aristotle were not who most historians say they were. |
| Philosophy: Goethe's `Fichte' (Spruce tree): "... I have grabbed eternity for myself." | Jesus, death was not the release of his soul out of confinement about which he ought to have been full of joy, but he suffered death, John 6:40. Not until after his resurrection and return as king, will eternal life take effect. |
| The Consequences of the Doctrine of the Immortality of the Soul Includes: |
1. Teachings not known from the Bible made possible through the teaching of the immortality of the soul:
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Because of infant baptism, members of churches who practice it, may have no idea what the church they consider themselves part of really teaches and why. Without diligently examining the reasons of "their faith", they cannot discern truth from error.
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[120] War in heaven would not be a shooting or blood shedding war. Heaven is inhabited by spirits whose nature may be guessed at in a small way from what the Bible says. Being cast out of heaven may be something like being locked out, separated from God the source of all life, which in itself is very serious since it leads to death. [150] Some adore Satan and are known as Luciferians, meaning they turn the truth on its head in that they worship Lucifer rather than Jesus. Satan, working through people, by using sly slogans and concepts of which Hegelian Dialectic is one, produces error by wanting to put together a `thesis' (the truth) and mix it with the `antithesis' (error) you end up with the synthesis (a mixture of truth and error), which, they hope, will be accepted by the biblically illiterate, gullible public as a new truth. [Juan Maler, Sieg der Vernunft, The model of free masonry. The book also reveals certain secret signs of those involved.] These appear to be wicked plans being put together. [500] Because we always have time for what we really want to do (things like watching tv, or going to shows, but we ought not too) no matter what, but when it comes to Bible study weariness can set in right away, which can also be a sign of sleep deprivation, triggered by the action of reading small letters in a quiet setting. Therefore, Bible study also requires getting your daily sleep. Besides that, for God to guide you, we are called to also remove everything from around our habitat (house, car, office) which reminds of Satan and sin (pictures, music, magazines, books, etc.) so Satan will not have left a toe hold in our life anymore, for once we decide to believe God's Word, only one can dwell in our heart - therefore, we clean up everything around us down to the last little picture, slogans on clothing, jewelry, statues, everything. [570] The descendants of Ishmael were: Nebajoth, Kedar, Adbeel, Mibsam, Hadar, Tema, Jetur, Naphish and Kedemah. Apparently their towns bore these names, had castles and twelve princes, Gen. 25:13-16.
[600] What do the "dry bones" of Ezekiel 37:5 mean? [650] The word "turned" (Hebr. `haphak'). What does the Bible say about the `evil' or `wicked'? Study Mt. 12:35, 39; 13:49; 22:10; 24:48; Hebr. 10:22; Rev. 2:2; 22:11. - to point out a few. We learn, the evil or wicked: (1) produce evil deeds, they trespass God's law as if it does not exist, (2) they want visible proof that God exists, when we must be saved by faith only, so God's universe can be sure His people are serious, (3) in the end only two groups exist on earth, the evil and the good, which God will separate, (4) all were invited (to the wedding, Christ's Second Coming), (5) even those with an evil conscience, which, if repented of and forgiven, can be washed clean with the blood of Christ, (6) but God's people must bear the evil in the world until (7) the final judgment separation. They know that the resurrection of Christ itself is a sign of the judgment of the world. His empty tomb is full of significance. He will return. His judgment of the world is as sure as His resurrection, which makes it a point of interest. Which Christian does not believe in the reality of the resurrection? And yet, but few Christians see any significance in the reality of the judgment. God's judgment arriving in the person of Jesus Christ in the clouds will take billions by surprise. - Please remember, when we speak of `Christians' we mean those who are followers of Jesus Christ. They do not break the commandments of God, they obey the health laws (eat not forbidden foods), do not drink alcohol, smoke, use illicit drugs or violate any of God's laws. [672] Is there electricity in the human body? Well, not the type of electricity as we receive from the power plants. The fact is we do have what we call electrolytes and conductive nerves. We can obtain electro-cardiograms and read brain waves, so we do have low currents which man made instruments can measure and express in man devised units of power measurements. Not only that, if in contact with an electrical source we can get shocked, perhaps even die from it, depending on the load received. That means our body can conduct electrical currents. [674] To ask about the `Tree of Life' and that Adam and Eve had no access to it after the fall, is a logical question. Many would like to know: If man goes to heaven at death, how can that be possible, after man was denied immortality since Adam, and so too later, during the time of the reign of sin in the world.' What is the answer? It is not possible for man to live forever without access to the `Tree of Life,' Rev. 2:7. We should say, logic should require that a nebulous soul without a physical body cannot eat. [700] But doesn't the Bible say, "He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption", Acts 2:31; ? Certainly. The bodies `corruption' refers to a more advanced stage of decomposition. Jesus' was not long enough in the grave for that to occur. But we may say that internal, microscopic changes should have occurred for Christ was certainly dead for a time. This may be demonstrated by the fact when the Roman soldier pierced the side of Jesus on the cross, it says, "But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water." John 19:34. [800] The emphasis is on the article "the" as I heard once correctly explained by Spiro Zodhiates on radio. Hopefully the minister will learn the truth about death and dying sometime soon.
[888] Here are some Bible texts: Comfort for Widows and Orphans: Gen. 48:21; Ex, 22:21-23; Deut. 10:14-19; 24:17-22; 1.Ki. 2:2,3; 17:8-16; Psalms 9:10-13; 10:14-18; 23; 27; 37:5,37; 39:10; 55:23; 68:5,6; 70; 82:3,4; 89:27; 102:18; 103:13; 118:8; 146; 147:3; Isa. 1:17; 40:11; 41:13,14; 49:14-16; 54:10; 63:16; Jer. 31:9; 49:11; Micah 7:7-9; Mt. 28:20; Mk. 12:41-44; Lk. 2:36-38; 7:11-16; 18:1-8; Jh. 14:18; 16:22; 1Cor. 10:13; Eph. 3:15; 1.Tim. 5:3-16; 1.Ptr. 5:6,7; Hebr. 10:35,36; James 1:27. [890] About Christ as he is now we study 1.Cor. 8:6; Eph. 4:7; Rev. 2:7 and 22:14. In essence it appears that Jesus will forever have a body as the redeemed shall have in heaven. As such he, like the redeemed, shall eat of the tree of life which bears fruit every month, and thus live forever. This is the supreme sacrifice which Christ made to save the human race. [900] The gravestone reads, "Here lyeth the body of Ann Attkinson who departed this life ye 24th day of May 1706 aged 77, `My life is hid in Christ with God when this my Savior Dear dos come again then I with Him in glory Shall Appear.'" - For a Christian, death is but a small matter. Why? To the believer, Christ is the resurrection and the life. In our Saviour the life that was lost through sin is restored; for He has life in Himself to quicken whom He will. He is invested with the right to give immortality. The life that He laid down in humanity, He takes up again, and gives to humanity. "I am come," He said, "that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly." "Whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life." "Whoso eateth My flesh, and drinketh My blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day." John 10:10; 4:14; 6:54. - Christ speaks here of death as if it were of little moment and then gazes briefly at the time after the final judgment, Jh. 8:50. "If a man keep My saying, he shall never see death," the second death from which there is no resurrection and from which Jesus saves us, "he shall never taste of death." To the Christian, the first death is but a sleep, a moment of silence and darkness. The life is hid with Christ in God, and "when Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with Him in glory." John 8:51, 52; Colossians 3:4. The voice that cried from the cross, "It is finished," was heard among the dead, the first fruit, who rested in their graves of the first death. It pierced the walls of sepulchers, and summoned the sleepers to arise, Mt. 27:52-53. The resurrection of Jesus was a sample of the first and final resurrection of all who sleep in Him. Thus will it be when the voice of Christ shall be heard from heaven. That voice will penetrate the graves and unbar the tombs, and the dead in Christ shall arise. At this time the phrase "I am come that they might have life" is fulfilled. When Jesus came the first time He fulfilled all conditions, because of His perfect life, to overcome the devil, the causer of sin, and give His people spiritual strength to likewise overcome and not do the evil deed because Jesus dwells in our heart. At the Saviour's resurrection a few graves were opened, but at His second coming all the precious dead shall hear His voice, and shall come forth to glorious, immortal life. The same power that raised Christ from the dead will raise His church, and glorify it with Him, above all principalities, above all powers, above every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in the world to come. According to the Bible, the second resurrection, after the millennium, is that of the wicked who then appear before the Lord and die the second, eternal death which Jesus died on the cross and from which He saves His people. This second death could not hold Him in the grave for He was without sin. Therefore we have assurance that the death of Christ did not stop the Word of God and what it taught, instead, His death provided an atoning sacrifice of sufficient value to call forth the blessing of divine power to change people. Jesus' life in place of ours means He makes a substitutionary atonement legal. Then He sends the Holy Spirit to allow a regenerative work to take place inside those who choose to be among the redeemed, for you see, the resurrection is a legal matter. This is how we are not only accounted right before God in the heavenly judgment taking place since 1844, but are also made right.
[930] Comments on 1 Timothy 6:16 have been written in a context which runs as follows. "The supreme concern of the Christian pastor must ever be that of purity and sanctity of his own motives. Thus when Paul has warned Timothy against the vanity and avarice which controlled the false teachers in Ephesus, he brings his epistle to a climax in a solemn charge to shun these evils and earnestly seek the things of the highest good, not to set his heart upon selfish and worldly gain, but to be looking for "the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ." [Erdmans, The Pastoral Epistles.] [1000] `Made fit' for heaven is a short way of describing the path of a Christian. How a Christian first hears the gospel, is converted, confesses his sin and repents, is baptized and becomes a follower of Jesus Christ. How God's grace works in him and keeps him in a co-operative attitude to keep growing in Christ and considers the attractions of this world as nothing and God's promises as everything. The `natural' body is not designed to live in the heavenly realm. The `spiritual' body is not ours until after the resurrection at the Second Coming of Christ, Job 19:25-27. However, we can be spiritually minded today on earth. [1003] Will we be able to recognize family and friends in heaven? All the sons and daughters of God will recognize each other for God is a God of love who created human families, therefore it can not be otherwise for He is not a God who would alter our mind at a whim, for then man would be just a pawn in His hand. God gave man a powerful mind to use for His glory, not to limit man and perform alterations in his brain and pigeonhole him into loneliness. Not at all. Those who teach that, teach a Satanic view which claims that God makes man forget all his friends and family in heaven. It is anticlimactic and would lead people not to advance God's cause on earth, for it makes God out to use draconian measures, Satan's way of doing things. Do not heed those teachings.
[1100] Here follows a description of the great day of the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus in the clouds. It is the mass resurrection and seeing Jesus in the clouds which evokes a great shout of joy coming from the lips of the now resurrected and living redeemed. If the soul goes to heaven at death, wouldn't this day be more so an anti-climax? That is why the teaching of the Second Coming of Christ has not been a strong doctrine among these churches.
[1300] "4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. [1500] As Matthew Henry commented on this word `formed', "Of the other creatures it is said that they were `created' and `made'; but of man that he was `formed', which denotes a gradual process in the work with great accuracy and exactness." [The Bethany Parallel Commentary of the Old Testament] [1510] When God created man he did not use dry dust but wet clay, Isaiah 64:8. Adam came forth without a character. Character is formed as an accumulation of impressions and information entering the brain.
[1600] How the error of an `immortal soul' is implanted in verse 7 as a foregone conclusion can be seen by a remark of Adam Clarke [Ibid., ref. 1500] who wrote, "In the most distinct manner God shows us that man is a compound being, having a body and a soul distinctly separately created, the body out of the dust of the earth, the soul immediately breathed from God himself." This in contrast to viewing the meaning of verse 7 not to be one of distinctness but rather as a union, one cannot exist without the other. Physical life (body) and mind are one in the same body. We read that the breath of life was breathed into Adam's nostrils, to reach his lungs, not into his heart or brain. While God breathed the first breath for Adam into his lungs, when Eve was created we read nothing about God breathing the first breath into her. We assume that is what happened. Strictly speaking, however, we do not know that to have been the case. Therefore, is it fair to ask, do women have an immortal soul? What is the answer? The answer is that neither man or woman has an immortal soul. Those teaching the immortality of the human `soul' may state that, yes, the soul can die, and, yes, the soul is immortal at the same time citing the parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus and some Paulinian verses in which Paul in his sweeping way talks about departing and being with the Lord leaving the conditions in between a bit open but explains them in other verses. [1700] A manuscript written in Coptic in the manner of an `enconium' or `homily' on Elijah the Tishbite is attributed to John Chrysostom (ca. 1199 AD), bishop of Constantinople, but with some doubts. See TSBA, Vol. IX, June 1893, pp. 355-404. Enconiums on Elijah appear to have been much sought after and esteemed among Copts, and there is little doubt that several such works existed in Egypt. Elijah and John the Baptist, misunderstood but revered by ascetics whose example the latter blindly followed, and whose lives were closely imitated by hosts of monks, recluses and solitaries often living in desert environments. This particular enconium uses the word "soul" as referring to a living human being, "The soul that shall build a house of prayer for thee upon earth shall live in the heavenly Jerusalem ...", p. 394.
[1850] Where does it say that in the Bible? It aludes to that in Hebrews 11:8-14, that ever since Enoch and Abraham, the patriarchs `looked for a city whose builder is God.' `they died in faith ... of promises ... having seen them afar off ... they seek a country,' namely Israel and Jerusalem and eventually the heavenly Jerusalem in Zion given them from God for they walked in harmony with the divine principles of God, Gen. 5:24; John 8:56.
[1900] There is at least one Bible version which renders this verse as given here, it is the 1930 Revised Edition of the Concordant Version. The `Today's English Version' which is the same as the `Good News Bible' renders this verse, "I promise you that today you will be in Paradise with me." The problem is not a comma, but the word "that" which should be placed to read, "I promise you today that you will be in Paradise with me." In effect it is the same problem as the comma, the word "that" could have been left out, therefore, denominational views determined where the translators put it.
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"The Egyptians ... were also the first people to put forward the doctrine of the immortality of the soul, and to maintain that after death it enters another creature at the moment of that creature's birth. It then makes the round of all living things - animals, birds, and fish - until it finally passes once again, at birth, into the body of a man. The whole period of transmigration occupies 3000 years. This theory has been adopted by certain Greek writers, some earlier, some later, who have put it forward as their own. Their names are known to me but I refrain from mentioning them." Herodotus, The Histories, Book II, Sec. 123, S. 131. The publishers reference states (assumes) these `writers' to be the Pythagoreans and Orphics. But the last part of the emphasized sentence produced here in italics and color is noteworthy with respect to the `Cultural Foundations of the Western Civilization'. [2025] Additional Bible texts how the word `today' is used are these: Zechariah 9:12; Hebrew 3:7,15; 4:7; 5:5. Three days after the death and burial of Jesus on Friday, resting in the grave on Sabbath and rising from death on Sunday. In Jewish thinking a portion of a day is counted as a whole day, not necessarily a 24 hour period.
[2026] Of course some try to get around this scripture by saying, to them paradise is the place where the good souls are waiting until the resurrection, meaning to say that is where Christ did go on that Friday, that is where he descended to according to some priests. They think when Christ died on Friday he went to this paradise and brought several souls back from the grave on Sunday in a special resurrection (Mt. 27:52); then, according to them, Christ, the thief and these souls together went to heaven which now is paradise. But all of this happens in a mysterious background which is not explained to us in the Bible. - So they speak of two types of "paradise", one a sort of waiting place for good souls and the other the heavenly paradise.
[2029] Explaining the contrasts: In Mark 9:43
"life" is set forth in contrast with `the fire that never shall be quenched.' So we want to let the Bible explain itself on these scriptures, how they use such contrasts, since many stumble over them without understanding. |
We can see that the underlined part is missing in Matthew. - - According to the `apparatus' (abreviaations) pertaining to Mark 9:43 underlined in red, the
In order to show that the KJV has some words added which are not there in the standard, `koine' Greek text, namely the words "never shall", in Mark 9:45.
That means these words were added because they are found in some versions, but more minor ones. That seems to indicate that Mark's phrase in 9:43,45, `... into the fire that never shall be quenched' is not supported by some major Greek text versions of Mark 9, and we ought to tread carefully and probably not build a doctrine on just these phrases.
In the German translation by Martin Luther these words are not found but the word "eternal" (aionios) is used which is found in the Greek of Nestle- Aland (underlined in blue). The often dependable German language Zürcher translation has a note stating that some Bibles use `unquenchable fire', meaning not all do. [2035] The account of the fall in Eden is written in a way which makes unsuspecting readers think that it intends to say that the snake in the `tree of the knowledge of good and evil' could talk. That is not the case in reality. We know already that all animals were created by God and only man could communicate with God. We read also, that God had already warned Adam and Eve not to eat from the tree of the "knowledge of good and evil." That means our first parents were aware of the presence of evil in the universe. They knew that the "evil" was a spirit being and they must be on guard. The account of the fall seems to say that Eve approached the forbidden tree, which means that illicit thinking took already place in her mind, which, once entertained led her deeper and deeper into falling for deceptions. There happened to be a snake in the tree and wily Satan used that snake as a medium and made it appear as if it was talking to Eve when it was not. Snakes cannot talk, Satan can. Eve basically knew that but she was alone. She made the mistake of leaving the side of her husband, who let it happen. From here on out the "snake" is used as the medium by which Satan tempted, succeeded in doing so and thereby earning another title of his evil existence, Satan was now referred to as a snake, Gen. 3:15. - In our world today, many videos, especially for children, deceive our young ones at an early age to (at least for a while) think that animals can talk. These lies are driven by Hollywood and mass media. They are the cause of much perplexity and lies to be passed around, drawing people away from understanding the Word of God which can pass all critical thinking. [2050] Dr. William Temple, former archbishop of Canterbury, in a Drew lecture on `Immortality', October 1931 at Sion College in London, England. The beliefs of the Hebrews are well put by the words of Jesus when he said, "... I am going to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am." (John 14:2-3) and the thief on the cross when he said, "Lord, remember me when you come into your kingdom." Luke 23:42. In other words, when Jesus says, `I will come back and take you to be with me,' there is no one of the human family with Him until that day when He comes back - of course in His glory, that of His Father, and of the holy angels and all of heaven for why should our Saviour do anything in secret when He even suffered death on a Roman cross in public? [2080] An archaeological discussion with many color images and illustrations of the City of David, including the wandering of his tomb in later period times, can be read in Bargil Pixner, Church of the Apostles Found on Mt. Zion in BAR, May/June 1990, p. 16-35,60. The last person, said to have positively known its location was Rabbi Akiva who was executed during the 2nd Jewish Revolt against Rome (132-135 AD) which was suppressed by emperor Hadrian (117-138 AD). Today no one knows exactly where it was located but the eastern hill is the favored locality.
[2100] On the question of where the dead go, what about the parable of the rich man and poor Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)? This parable is one of a series of parables which are not to be understood literally. Why?
[2150] `Be risen with Christ' could be a reference to the day of baptism of Paul's converts, since at baptism, the baptismal candidate is buried in memory of Christ in the water and lifted out of the water, as a symbol of the resurrection. The phrase "... your life is hid with Christ in God." should be put through the biblical screening procedure and we would find out that the word `hid' in its 125 occurrences, without exception, always means that something is being `secreted away' in the sense of not wanting to be noticed. In the 3rd chapter of Colossians `hid' means the same as in Colossians 2:3. In context with verse 2, the word "`mystery' has its usual New Testament meaning. It describes something once hidden but now disclosed, ... they are hidden in Christ as in a treasure house ...". [Charles Erdman, `The Epistles of Paul to the Colossians..', p. 68.] [2152] A 2nd century letter may illustrate the pagans view of death. "Irene to Taonnophris and Philo good comfort. I am sorry and weep over the departed one as I wept for Didymas. And all things, whatsoever were fitting, I have done, and all mine, Epaphroditus and Thermuthion and Philion and Apollonius and Plantas. But, nevertheless, against such things one can do nothing. Therefore comfort ye one another." Thus this letter closes like Paul where he writes, ".... sorrow not, even as others which have no hope ... Wherefore comfort one another with these words." - With these words that were written in the previous verses, of course. 1.Thess. 4:13, 18. (The blue part quoted in Adolf Deissmann, Light From the Ancient East, NY: George H. Doran Company, 1927, p. 176.) This letter seems to confirm that pagans in the Greek realm in those days had no hope for life after death; remember, we are not to pray for the dead.
[2200] Describing the Second Coming of Jesus Christ this way, accompanied by throngs of heavenly beings, or, as the Bible says, in the clouds of heaven is sometimes criticized. Critics point to Isaiah 19:1: [2210] Belief in the indestructibility of the soul can be further considered why it should be true. To believe that condition of man invites several problems. It seems to put into question a future judgment. Taking for granted a belief in punishment and reward, we would first conclude that no human being's record can be complete at death. His life has ended, but his influence continues, his "works do follow" him. "And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them." Rev. 14:13. Earthly courts do await the final outcome of a crime, in case of a wounded victim. If the victim dies after the arrest of the perpetrator, it definitely influences the final sentence. Therefore, a human being is responsible for more than the immediate outcome and judgment must be delayed to some more remote point in time than the death of a person. This implies that no soul could justly be admitted into heaven or hell at the time of death.(See also: Luke 12:48; 2.Pet. 2:9)
[2290] Discussing some more 2.Cor. 5:9,
"Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him." 2.Cor. 5:9.
[2300] When Adam and Eve sinned, their physical body changed. Having no access to the `Tree of Life', their body cells began to age and over many years led to their death. The brain is part of the physical body just like the heart, lungs, liver and intestine are. When our organs begin to experience loss in functionality with age, so does the brain. The brain, seat of our mind, is an organ. In it resides what we know and who we are. It is our `spirit', our personality. There is no immortal part to it, as the whole body of Adam and Eve sinned, so all of their body also died. We are 100% mortal. At the moment of death, microscopic events, starting decay, set in right away, exemplified by cessation of breathing and blood circulation. And so it is that Lazarus and Jesus were dead. But God knows our genetic code and therefore can recreate us on resurrection day. Tracing the origin of belief in an immortal soul we may mention the following spread of evidence: [2320] An old `Messiah' Hebrew text (4Q521) from Qumran contains the phrase, "... resurrect the dead" and no hint of an immortal aspect of human death. See here the entire text.
[2350] The Old Testament understanding of where the dead are is particularly well expressed in this passage if we just let these words speak for themselves, "He will swallow up death in victory ... and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth ... And it shall be said in that day, Lo, this is our God, we have waited for him, and he will save us ..." and "O Lord ... Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead." Isaiah 25:8-9; 26:17,19. The Bible teaches the resurrection of the righteous patriarchs, Mark 12:26-27. The Sanhedrin and the scribes knew that the fathers of Israel were still in their graves. The Jews taught their sons, 1. the class which died before Christ's return of whom is written, "I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death." Hosea 13:14; 1.Cor. 15:55.There will be a reception in the air. Jesus will ascend with the righteous to His Father's home and to the heavenly throne - John 14:1-3; Acts 1:11; Matth. 16:27; 25:31; Isa. 40:26; 26:2; Matth. 25:34; Rev. 22:14. The notion of an immortal soul was foreign to the Hebrew faith.
[2360] Does this scripture mean that the `good' and the `evil' will be raised up together at the same time? At first it may seem that way. To find the answer we must study the other Bible passages which contain information on this subject. In Luke 14:14 we read only of the resurrection of the `just'. |
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"But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection."
"This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years." A revised reading of Revelation 20:6 for illustration only and to underscore that the red sentence belongs context wise to verse 6, not verse5. |
`The rest' are those who are part of the 2nd resurrection. This sentence (with the red in it) reaches back to Verse 4 and forward to Verse 6, context wise it should belong to Verse 6.
We should say though, when Christ comes, a select few of the wicked will be resurrected to witness His Coming in glory to this earth. Who are they? They are those who put Him on trial, delivered Him to be crucified and those who pierced his body, Matth. 26:64; Mark 14:62; Rev. 1:7. While these men will see Jesus come, they will not survive and die 3 times - first their natural death, next the death after they see Him in the clouds, and then the death which is for all other of the wicked the second death, but for these `witnesses' it will be the third. - Dear reader, life in this world without God is without hope unless we belong to God. Just observe these man who had gained their riches dishonestly and how they, now at the eve of their life, have to pay a heavy price enforced by human laws, and then again, unless they convert, the price all must pay who disregarded God's claims on our life. |
| Verse 6 | "Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years." | The resurrection of those who rose from the grave before they reign with Christ for 1000 years. |
This passage says clearly that there are two resurrections, the first resurrection of the righteous (in blue), which followed Christ throughout the centuries and many of which died the death of a martyr**, followed by the 1000 year millennium at the end of which the second resurrection of the wicked takes place. John 5:28-29 does not distinguish between the two resurrections on the time scale since that point was not as urgent at the time when the doctrine of the resurrection fact itself was not generally known among any people. To teach the two resurrections right then would have been hard to swallow for probably most new converts to Christianity. Not until John the Revelator wrote did God shed light on that subject. Suffice it to say, the reason that there are definitely two resurrections is because the Bible speaks definitely of the "first resurrection". If there is a "first" that term is used, because there is a "second" resurrection. Many times when the Bible uses such terms, it is the beginning of a list. See Genesis 1; Gen. 8:13,14; Judges 20:22,24.
On this subject, the important lesson we want to learn, none of us want to be among those of the second resurrection for they will stand outside the City of God among all the unrepentant sinners of the ages, and they look around and they cry out, `I am lost, I am lost. Look, I am lost,' in an involuntary cry of the guilty conscience. Friend, it does not have to be your experience for the door to salvation is still open. Resolutely step out and learn to know all about Jesus and you will be saved. Pray, "Jesus, save me from my self. Cleanse me with your precious blood from all my sins and create a new heart in me. Amen." Pray every waking hour. Question: Where in the Bible does it talk about the second resurrection and who are those resurrected? Answer: From Matth. 25:31-46**, 2.Thessalonians 1:7-9; chapter 2:8 and Rev. 6:14-17 we know that the implication is that the wicked will be slain by the brightness of the Lord Jesus' coming while the (first) resurrected (1.Cor. 15:22,23) and living redeemed will be translated and taken into heaven. These slain "wicked", those who did not accept God's offer of salvation (Rev. 6:15-17), will be dead for the 1000 year period at the end of which that "second" resurrection takes place for we read that Satan will be loosed out of his prison, namely 1000 years with no one to tempt into sin (Rev. 20:3 the "bottomless pit" is the destroyed earth as it appeared before creation), for all the wicked are dead (that prison is not a literal prison but one of circumstanes) - but Satan will now go out and deceive the nations, namely "the rest of the dead" (Rev. 20:5), all those wicked people now resurrected in the second resurrection; their condition is described in Isa. 20:4,5. [** Please notice that Jesus does not yet detail that the "everlasting punishment is that at the very end, after the millennium and the second resurrection.] We learn from Rev. 20:6 that the righteous have come forth from their graves and are now immortal, 1.Cor. 15:51-53. Another death is going to take place, 1000 years after Christ's Second Coming, still ahead for the wicked, but it has no authority over the righteous. - Therefore, when we accept Christ as our Saviour now, when He then comes in the clouds on that last day of this old world's history we will not react by running away from Him because we think He is coming to punish us - for we accepted Christ's sacrifice on the Cross, confessed our sins, repented, and began a live of willing obedience to all that God's word teaches and reveals to us in diligent Bible study - try to find well construted study guides like those of the `AmazingFacts' for an organized set of topics. No, we will be able to stand and welcome Him with open arms. After Satan, and the now in the second resurrection made alive wicked, are together again, the devil begins immediately his deceptive work. He gets them to try and take the city of God, Rev. 20:8,9, culminating into their second death and the end of the reign of sin. Let us show these events in a table a bit different than above because of many questions. |
| People live their daily lives, some with and others without Christ. | Both groups die the death all people die. The righteous with the hope of eternal life and the wicked without. |
| For the last generation on earth, before the Second Coming of Christ, those who accepted Christ as their Savior, followed the Bible and lived a godly life - those will be translated without seeing death.(**) The saved who died since Adam's time will be resurrected in the "first" resurrection. There are two kinds of people - those who say, "Lord Thy will be done," and those to whom the Lord says, "I have to respect your choice; your will be done." In the end no one asked to be born, We are here only because we have been created without our consent. God offers us the hope of eternal life, if we choose it. If we do not, then we will go back to the nothingness out of which we came. It is, in the end, our own choice, (Matth. 25:46; John 5:29; Rev. 21:1-4,8), two choices. | Those who did not accept Christ as their Savior will be slain by the glory of God, the brightness of His coming, for nothing of sin can stand on their feet and live on that day. This is the first death for the unsaved people who were alive on the day of the Second Coming. |
| The events surrounding the Second Coming of Christ will also cause ruin to everything on earth because God has withdrawn His protective care. Since the saved saints are raised and ascend with Christ and all the holy angels and all His people to heaven. At the Flood of Noah the earth got washed clean of all life, except those in the arch, this time the earth will have no life existing on its destroyed folds and torn features, except Satan and his fallen angels. "I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light. I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly. I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled. I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the Lord, and by his fierce anger." Jer. 4:23-26. | The now desolate earth is described as a bottomless pit in the Bible, its appearance similar to before creation. Satan and his demon angels exist by themselves for a millennium on earth unable to find anyone to tempt to sin. |
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At the end of the Millennium the City of God descends to earth and the unsaved dead are resurrected. This is the second resurrection. What condition is the earth in? "I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light. I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly. I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled. I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the Lord, and by his fierce anger. For thus hath the Lord said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end. For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black: because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it." Jer. 4:23-28. |
But people may ask, why does God raise the wicked back to life again? Why not just leave them dead and gone? Answer: Because Jesus takes great care to dot every "i" and cross every "t" so that this "great controversy" that raged through God's heavenly universe and earth, will never be repeated. In the wisdom of God, therefore the wicked will confess that they deserve what they receive, for the Bible says, "Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen." Rev. 1:7. "For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God." Romans 14:11.
Now all people who ever lived are alive, the redeemed inside the City of God and the wicked outside the City. |
| During the Millennium the redeemed under the presiding presence of God were judging the wicked according to the standard of God's Law, 1.Cor. 6:1-3; Rev. 20:4. Each case was examined and the verdict is ready to be pronounced. | The wicked outside the City are shown exactly the reasons for their sentence and they acknowledge the righteous judgment and die the second death from which there is never another resurrection. Their memory vanished with them. |
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Note: That a number of God's people will be translated without ever seeing death is also the reason why the last generation must live according to healthful principles, for when Jesus comes He does not come as a physician or health practitioner, for He has given us principles to live by so we will not have to suffer all the diseases which unbelievers are afflicted with. As soon as you find out which foods are among those best avoided and discontinued, do not delay to follow good counsel. Pharamaceuticals are also among the poisons which are not according to God's design for man. Natural means is what God counsels. The Apostles healed many people in their days, but they did not live in the time up close to Christ's Coming in power. We are that generation and have special expectations to fulfill relative to that, for we are only translated as we are. God does not, in most cases, design to wean us of drugs of any sort, or flesh foods, milk, cheese (there are no slaughter houses in heaven), etc. We ought to practice self-denial as Christ, our example, did. How can self-denial be practiced? See here on that. The words of Jesus underscore also the judgment aspect of the "just" being with him in heaven not until after the judgment in the following scripture:
[2368] Walter Bauer (author 1877-1960), William F. Arndt (editor, 1880-1957); F. Wilbur Gingrich (editor, 1929-1972), Arndt-Gingrich, Greek Lexicon, p. 901. [2369] C.L.Wilibald Grimm (1807-1891), Joseph Henry Thayer (1828-1901), Greek Lexicon, p. 677. [2380] "Now, if one should say that Abraham's soul lives with God but his body is dead, this distinction is rubbish. I will attack it. One must say, 'The whole Abraham, the whole man, shall live.' The other way you tear off a part of Abraham and say, 'It lives.' This is the way the philosophers speak: 'Afterward the soul departed from its domicile,' etc. That would be a silly soul if it were in heaven and desired its body!" Theodore G. Tappert, ed. & tr., Luther's Works, vol.54, Table Talk [Philadelphia: Fortress Press, 1967], p.447). Actually this error is loudly proclaimed today. They say, when Jesus died, his body was dead but not his spirit. Where was his spirit then? After His resurrection Christ said to Mary "touch me not" Joh. 20:17, since He had not yet presented Himself to His Father. That should mean Christ's `spirit' had not ascended to heaven after He died on the cross. Why? Because `spirit' means a living human being, a thinking mind, not some ghostly entity. - However, later the same day, when Christ appeared to his disciples in the upper room, the `doubting Thomas' was allowed to touch Christ. That means that from the time Christ met Mary to the time when He met Thomas, Christ had ascended to His Father and His sacrifice was accepted. [2400] Albert Barnes, Notes on Revelation, pp. 190-191, comment on Revelation 6:9-11: "We are not to suppose that this literally occurred, and that John actually saw the souls of the martyrs beneath the altar - for the whole representation is symbolical; nor are we to suppose that the injured and the wronged in heaven actually pray for vengeance on those who wronged them, or that the redeemed in heaven will continue to pray with reference to things on earth; but it may be fairly inferred from this that there will be as real a remembrance of the wrongs of the persecuted, the injured, and the oppressed, as if such prayer were offered there; and that the oppressor has as much to dread from the divine vengeance as if those whom he has injured should cry in heaven to the God who hears prayer, and who takes vengeance." [2410] Famous names of martyrs are recorded in John Fox's book of `The Martyrs'. [2450] We are fully aware that some interpreters (Adam Clarke at al.) tried to place these events into the time before the destruction of Jerusalem. That view would crowd a lot of prophecy into a narrow space of time with dubious fulfillments and leave large eras of history blank and without guidance by the prophetic Word of God. It is the Preterist viewpoint, invented to free the persecuting power from its unflattering, condemning involvement of the events described in the Book of Revelation. See The Bethany Parallel Commentary on the Old/New Testament, Minneapolis, 1983. [2500] The pre-existence of Jesus Christ is taught in the Old and New Testament: John 17:5, Micah 5:2, John 1:1-4,15, John 8:58, John 17:24, Philippians 2:6-8, Colossians 1:17 and Hebrews 1:8.
[3000] Herbert Douglass, `Messenger of the Lord', pp. 256-263. |
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